This kind of dualistic view is difficult for me to appreciate. It feels artificial and not particularly useful. — praxis
Still unclear how you mean this. A non-mental phenomenon can directly cause mental phenomenon, creating sensory data for example. In the same way an outside source, ie words from a book, can in-still values into our minds. That doesnt have to mean the value exists outside or minds, just that the source does. — DingoJones
Concepts are abstractions from what I've appropriated in my immediate existence, which are communicated via referential signifiers, not necessarily words. — Merkwurdichliebe
The source of morals cannot be found in human biology, therefore the belief that it can is rubbish. — praxis
It was just a side note, expressing a feeling and not an ontology. — praxis
The tyranny of the bleeding obvious! — Janus
Re S's question re the analogy, I'd have to read back through a number of posts. In longer threads like this, where people are posting a lot of long replies, I don't read most of what people are writing--on purpose, because I think that it's problematic that we type so much and gloss over so many issues so quickly. — Terrapin Station
Sure, so you're prescribing a shared normative protocol? — Janus
So, you're not suggesting that it or they should be of any significance to me? — Janus
Aren't there a number of people participating in threads here? — Terrapin Station
I'm not sure I understand this comment, — Terrapin Station
Morals are only found in biology, because it's a phenomenon that doesn't occur outside of brain activity. — Terrapin Station
Moral behavior is not brain activity, and does not merely involve brain activity, although brain activity may be considered to play a part. — Janus
You could offer evidence otherwise if you want to argue that. Offer evidence that the judgment whether any behavior is moral (or alternately the conceptual application of some behavior having to do with morality rather than something else) can occur outside of brains. I'll look at the evidence in question if you want to suggest something. — Terrapin Station
As Schopenhauer tells us, the aesthetic response is to what is of no practical significance to us. It is what transports and transforms our consciousness. — Janus
I agree with much of what you said there, though, and often apparently contradictory ideas just reflect the existence of different possible ways of interpreting concepts such as <reason>, < emotion>, <interest>, <responsibility> and so on, and the different ways in which they can be related together to produce diverse and perhaps apparently incompatible perspectives on our common human experience. — Janus
Whether any behavior is moral or not is a phenomenon--a type of judgment--that only occurs in brains. — Terrapin Station
All human interpersonal behavior is morally significant, — Janus
It was not merely restricted to works of art, but all human artifice. — Merkwurdichliebe
I, personally, derive much edification from this perspective, but I understand it to be only one perspective amongst infinite perspectives, some better than others, but all are mere approximations at best. — Merkwurdichliebe
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