• Geo
    37
    Stalin was a worse enemy of the world than Hitler was, no one realized it at the time. He had killed far more people and his only intention during the war was to conquer Eastern Europe as a foothold for further aggression against Europe. Stalin made a pact, an alliance involving sharing Poland 50/50 with Germany. The only reason Russia eventually joined the allied forces was because Hitler was psychotic enough to attack it.whollyrolling

    And what surprises you so much that Stalin and Hitler signed an act. In Europe, all governments disliked the Soviet Union and why did the Soviet Union have to help some of them? And if Hitler had not attacked the Soviet Union, then England would have an end soon and then the history of mankind would have been different.
    And you know, for example, that in the USSR people lived worse than residents of socialist Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, the German Democratic Republic, the former Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia. And Soviet Union also gave money to the Cuba and others. Soviet invaders are strange, the invaders live worse than those they captured.
  • I like sushi
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    A man without roots is a a man from the planet earth. The internet destroys the roots and erases the difference between nationalities, it makes everyone the same — Geo

    I certainly agree that humanity’s social evolution this century will mean the end of “nations” as we know them today - they are actually quite a recent development!
  • Shamshir
    855
    "With great power comes great responsibility"

    And should you give common folk the power and responsibility, political leaders dissipate - becoming one of the many. In this sense, sure, they may want to keep the sheep in a pen - rather than playing about in a field.

    A tighter group as opposed to a looser group, is like a book as opposed to some pages.
    It can be good and help the group advance quite well.
    But from the picture you're painting, seems like each group is just turning in to a stone to throw at the other group.

    On the other side, just as you stated - the internet as a whole is a pen.
    So keeping it tangled as it is, can be a great subterfuge.

    So with our without internet, we could be just as well.
    A bad smith is a bad smith, even with quality metal.
  • Geo
    37
    I certainly agree that humanity’s social evolution this century will mean the end of “nations” as we know them today - they are actually quite a recent development!I like sushi

    Such changes do not pass peacefully, there will be resistance, there will be war
  • I like sushi
    4.9k
    Do you take yourself to be some kind of prophet? Saying there will be war is like saying “It’ll rain.” War/Conflict is a necessary circumstance of life. We’re living in the most peaceful period of human history and problems may arise due to humans being to ‘comfortable’.

    I don’t expect another WW in any of our life times. I think we’ve moved beyond that. It is certainly possible, but we managed to avoid one for 70+ years.
  • Geo
    37
    Do you take yourself to be some kind of prophet?I like sushi

    This is just a history, analysis and logic.
  • I like sushi
    4.9k
    You seem to be quite lacking in all three of those departments though. Whether or not you believe me is another thing altogether, but others will no doubt point this out in due time.

    I’ll start by making clear to you that Russia won’t join NATO for the simple reason that NATO exists to prevent Russia starting WWIII. If they were to join ... well, you can hopefully figure out how ridiculous that idea is by yourself?

    How can capitalism exist in a society where most of the unemployed, communism is better suited for such a society — Geo

    I do have to ask what form of “communism” you’re talking about here? If you mean from Marx and Engels manifesto then, no is the only reasonable response. In an ideal world communism works without flaw, as does practically every other economic system.
  • Geo
    37
    Your motive is unclear and so is your question. You seem to be a troll.whollyrolling

    For you the troll is the one who expresses the opposite opinion from yours?
  • Geo
    37
    I’ll start by making clear to you that Russia won’t join NATO for the simple reason that NATO exists to prevent Russia starting WWIII. If they were to join ... well, you can hopefully figure out how ridiculous that idea is by yourself?I like sushi


    In the Soviet Union and Russia, people believe that NATO will attack them, and NATO believes that this is the Soviet Union and now Russia will attack themmaxresdefault.jpg

    Do you think America will allow the Russians to build their military bases in Mexico or Canada?
  • Geo
    37
    I do have to ask what form of “communism” you’re talking about here? If you mean from Marx and Engels manifesto then, no is the only reasonable response. In an ideal world communism works without flaw, as does practically every other economic system.I like sushi
    The main problems of communism are the slowdown of technological progress, and the reluctance of a small group of people to live as everyone else lives. Those who want to drive the Mercedes when everyone else driving the Ford. The first problem will fall off with Robotization and AI, the second will be solved with a strong hand and cold heart.
  • whollyrolling
    551


    I was referring to the flippancy and even the hint of pride with which some talk of "bringing down the white man", and the implication that the globe is oppressed by a white regime while globally whites are a minority. Funny how one can be so subtle in one's vitriol:

    And we're just on the verge of big racial wars. Any majority wants to remain a majority. And any minority, wants to become a majority and will do a lot for this. We are on the verge of change, the "white world" is gradually endingGeo

    And a defense of Stalin by claiming "America this, America that" as if "America anything" excuses mass slaughter and flippant discarding of the lives of citizens and soldiers a nation's leader has a duty to protect, followed by justification or denial of communism's negative impact on humanity:

    And why you think that communists always kill people without reason.

    Why Americans essentially destroyed Indians?
    Geo

    And in the Soviet Union there was a war for ideology and why a war for ideology any worse than the war for the Territory, when the strong deprives the weak of his house.Geo

    And what is the fault of communism in the Second World War, except that the socialist Hitler hated it?Geo

    And an inability to conceptualize word definition:

    Why is racism if it's true and I'm not talking bad about other racesGeo

    And a clueless notion that Russia's attack on the West was simply an ideological war--while I was specifically addressing Stalin's slaughter of his own people, which was ignored or overlooked by this person:

    And what wars in which the Soviet Union took part were not ideological?Geo
  • I like sushi
    4.9k
    Not worth the effort. People with nothing to say only find fools to talk to.

    I’m out ;)
  • Geo
    37
    I was referring to the flippancy and even the hint of pride with which some talk of "bringing down the white man", and the implication that the globe is oppressed by a white regime while globally whites are a minority. Funny how one can be so subtle in one's vitriol:whollyrolling

    why immigration goes only in one direction, everyone goes to white countries, whites do not really go to Asia or Africa or the Middle East? Race is not only skin color but also in many ways a common culture. All races are good, but the immigration of all the other races to countries where the white race mostly lives and while the birth rate in these countries is waning will cause the white race to mingle with immigrants and disappear while the other races remain to exist
  • Geo
    37
    there were no holy empires in the world, all empires shed their blood during their formation. Therefore it is not necessary to tell that one empire sacred and the second bloody. Blood is on them all. The Roman Empire for the sake of their benefits destroyed entire nations, All the major political figures in human history have hands to the elbow in the blood of the unseen victims.
    The world is not divided into black and white, in the world many other colors. So do not judge communism and Stalin only using two colors, white and black, not everything was good but not
    everything was bad.
    Before condemning communism, read about the conditions under which the majority of the people lived in the Russian Empire. Communism it was the only time in the history of Russia when the majority lived normally.

    Аnd it looks like the story will be repeated soon, because rich people have not learned the lessons of history. They did not understand that they had to control their greed. And it is better for them to share wealth with the people on their own terms, than to wait until the hungry and the angry people begin to share their wealth themselves.

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  • Geo
    37
    I asked you a simple question and you do not have an answer to it?

    Do you think America will allow the Russians to build their military bases in Mexico or Canada?
  • ralfy
    42
    It will probably end as the effects of limits to growth coupled with global warming set it.
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