Plantinga's reformed epistemology assumes there is such thing as a sensus divinitatus that informs all proper-functioning humans of God's existence. Analogously: you can KNOW you're holding a rose in your hand, but you cannot prove to me that you are doing so (if I'm not seeing it myself). Same with the Sensus Divinitatus: either you sense it or you don't . — Relativist
Some ask for evidence of God's existence because some like to require evidence to believe that anything exists. — creativesoul
creativesoul
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When you make a statement about something, do you believe that what you say is true? — creativesoul
creativesoul
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I'm not asking you if you 'do believing' whatever that's supposed to mean. I'm asking you simple questions with yes/no answers. Why not just answer?
Okay? — creativesoul
..I do not do "believing."
If that bothers you...deal with it.
You will never hear me say, "I 'believe' anything."
If you are asking me if I make guesses, estimates, suppositions, or the like...I do. But I always specify that I am guessing, estimating, supposing...
...I never hide what I am doing by saying, "I believe any of those things — Frank Apisa
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..I do not do "believing."
If that bothers you...deal with it.
You will never hear me say, "I 'believe' anything."
If you are asking me if I make guesses, estimates, suppositions, or the like...I do. But I always specify that I am guessing, estimating, supposing...
...I never hide what I am doing by saying, "I believe any of those things — Frank Apisa
^My problem with that statement is that ANYONE can make a "guess, estimate..." and use that as a safeguard to say they do not believe this or that, if they wish to do so. Nonetheless, having a guess is pretty much the same thing as a belief, as to say that "I'm making a guess that this happened or that so and so exists, because..." would in the grand scheme of things be the same as saying "I believe this happened because..." in that you are giving reasons in both cases. On the other hand, if you were to say "I'm making a guess that this happened," it would pretty much be a moot point unless you gave a reason why, since anyone can guess when given two binary options such as "this did or did not happen" or "this thing does or does not exist." Unless you give reasons for something, then it really does not matter if you say you guess, estimate, etc." something as opposed to saying you "believe" it, because the implication is the same regardless and varies only if you give reasons to support it. — Maureen
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Belief is far more broad than belief statements about God. However, in the context of belief in God, your position seems fine to me. — creativesoul
I don't think it's possible. How do we not know it's just a delusion.
I know I was hungry this morning. Am I just delusional? — Merkwurdichliebe
Why would god have created a universe where we could conflate its existence with delusions, or where delusions of any kind exist? — Harry Hindu
in this case we are talking about the existence of someone or something that has been expressed by millions of people, which is binary and cannot be compared to something that a single person or even a few people claim to have done but can't prove it. To put it quite simply, something either exists or it doesn't; there is no in-between, and this is true whether or not you or anyone else knows whether or not the thing exists. — Maureen
Some ask for evidence of God's existence because some require evidence to believe that anything exists. — creativesoul
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