Chimppigs unite! — Wallows
I see you understand the way of the chimp-pig. But, I think we should continue this conversation over at the lounge. — Wallows
AS A WHITE MAN I AM OPPRESSED BECAUSE I CANNOT FREELY SAY THE N-WORD, THIS IS WHAT ORWELL DESCRIBED IN THE ONLY BOOK I HAVE READ (ONE NINE EIGHT FOUR) — Maw
Blacks (African Americans, err, Negroes... niggers?) use "nigger" in the same way that cock suckers use "queer". — Bitter Crank
Maybe you can stop being an idiot about this now especially as this was discussed before and it was explained in detail to you where you were going wrong. — Baden
I happen know people in black London sub-cultures who have close white friends in those sub-cultures who use the word just like they themselves do. They know how to use it in a way Hanover never could, not only or even primarily because he's not black, but because he's not of that sub-culture. — jamalrob
Yes, and that kind of complicates the use/mention thing, which gets infected by user/context/falsely attributed phonetic variant issues, confuses people, and leads to general strife on both sides. — Baden
I agree with all of that except, I think, for the last line, which is what this is all about I guess. — jamalrob
That's very interesting, because I have the opposite experience, growing up in Houston. My father always used the n-word to refer to African Americans (my mother didn't). His family were small-town farmer folks, and many of them were even worse (they invariably prefixed the n-word with "god damned").
— Relativist
That's consistent with my observation that its use revealed one's class. I think the same holds true in the African American community. — Hanover
I think that distinction should be easier to spot for Americans than for other British speakers, because most varieties of American English are 'rhotic', meaning they pronounce terminal 'r's, whereas British and Australian English do not, instead pronouncing the ends of words ending in 'er' as 'ah' or 'uh'. So that distinction is lost on we Poms and Aussies. — andrewk
I don't know whether AAVE is rhotic. I have a feeling it may not be — andrewk
Lol. It's the same word, Baden. — frank
But it might be important to insist on it sometimes. I insist on being able to do it here, for example. — jamalrob
ironically irreverent. — jamalrob
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