Freedom is choosing to grow unimpeded by others, that does not mean not being influenced by others.
— Brett
But what of the subconscious? Even subtle gestures can influence how you live your life without you even knowing. — TogetherTurtle
Even so, I think it’s hard to know when you’re being influenced versus when you are being impeded. — TogetherTurtle
Yet how can one ponder it without revealing their feelings about contemporary nations that exist today, for comparison of a New Nation? — Michael Edwards
No one can be truly free since no one chooses to be born. We are fettered by reality, and at least whilst we live; are unable to escape it. — 420mindfulness
This means that to me the only true freedom we can have is of the mind. Our deliberate thoughts. The monkey mind can be quietened and you can cultivate a peace in which your mind is free, endless and yours. — 420mindfulness
Freedom - the conditions under which autonomy may be expanded and maintained. — fdrake
This seems to imply that freedom cannot be permanent, that eventually, we will hit a wall and not be able to expand our autonomy. — TogetherTurtle
Freedom's always going to be particularised, if we're always in a state of freedom, that sense of freedom becomes politically irrelevant regardless of its ontological richness. Freedom should always be thought of as a political/social/cultural direction of development rather than equated with any existing state of affairs. Freedom which is gained needs to be defended.
We're always on the precipice of greater freedom, or losing it. — fdrake
I am not, I suppose you could say nobody chooses to exist is more appropriate? I mean you personally do not make a free choice. The same with your physical looks (body mods aside).
My point was more that choice is denied, taking freedom with it. — 420mindfulness
But you are still completely free to imagine only what you can imagine. That cannot be controlled by any other person. — 420mindfulness
This means that to me the only true freedom we can have is of the mind. Our deliberate thoughts. The monkey mind can be quietened and you can cultivate a peace in which your mind is free, endless and yours. — 420mindfulness
But they are still your thoughts — 420mindfulness
Thoughts can be considered no more property than your body can. Interestingly this links nicely to the subject. — 420mindfulness
You are truly free in the choice to share or not share this part of you with anything outside of yourself. — 420mindfulness
I see freedom as something that everyone already has. Everyone already has a limitless potential for agency. Subjugation relies on pathology. That there are people who are not free is resultant of some form of cult or another. In short, the problem is largely psychological. — thewonder
I don't see why that would take a lot of education, but, I do like the point that you make. — thewonder
I had this idea that positive liberties were more preferable, but, that negative liberties were all that a person has to level an argument with. — thewonder
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