Strong atheism is a positive belief that no deities exist. How anyone can be 100% sure of that, I do not see. — Devans99
Are you an agnostic about every empirical claim, such as whether you have an automobile? — Terrapin Station
So would you say that you're not 100% sure when it comes to denying any arbitrary, absurd/fantastical claim that anyone makes? — Terrapin Station
I have no reason to believe our modes of access to the universe are comprehensive. — Arne
1. Can't get something from nothing
2. So something must have permanent existence (because if there ever was a state of nothingness, nothingness would persist to today)
3. Something cannot exist permanently in time ('always' existing in time implies no temporal start which implies it does not exist)
4. So there must exist a permanent timeless something. This is identical to the necessary being that philosophers have argued for down the ages.
5. The permanent timeless something is the cause of the Big Bang.
6. Timeless things are permanent (they just 'are' - no tense). They are beyond causality so do not in themselves need creating. — Devans99
So I think what is coming out is that one has to have a clear definition of God to qualify the term 'atheist'. — Devans99
Deism is a subset of theism but you could argue that deists are atheistic with regard to a traditional definition of God.
Likewise, because of the more moderate definition of God (no 3Os) employed by deists, you could say atheists are agnostic with respect to a deistic god - in that disproving the existence of such a god is beyond the power of science and reason - so to deny the possibility completely would seem unreasonable. — Devans99
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. — Devans99
If 3 people claim to have seen something supernatural or extra-natural (ofcourse they could be lying)
then i believe for someone to say there are no extra-natural nor supernatural occurences or god like entities, then the notion of gods or a God cannot be dismissed without evidence. — christian2017
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