So, a new way of doing business. Stir the country up with issues of racism, then watch the stock market. — Brett
Quite unlikely. The obvious answer is Nike just trying to manage a somewhat surprising situation in the best possible way. The idea that they 'planned' this all along is quite silly. You don't make a shoe that is then planned to be pulled off out of negative feedback from an athlete that is promoting your stuff. That isn't cunning marketing plan.This whole story was obviously planned by Nike for name recognition. — Harry Hindu
And this actually just shows the absurdity of the whole issue.I won't say whether or not Colin Kaepernick is correct his view of the Betty Ross flag, or if Nike is correct in yielding to him, and pulling the product out of market, mostly because I don't care, but also because it is irrelevant to Nike's overarching brand strategy. — Maw
Has anybody here actually agreed or defended Colin Kaepernick's view that the Betsy Ross flag is a symbol of hate and an offensive slave-era emblem? — ssu
Is it? You see it's also easy to 'understand' why people would fall for communism or fascism or whatever. It's a different matter to agree with the ideas.It's easy enough to understand. — frank
So are you saying all US national emblems / symbols prior to the abolution of slavery are symbols of slavery? — ssu
How about the era before women's emancipation and universal suffrage? Shouldn't then the symbols before 1920 in the US be offensive towards women as women hadn't equal rights to men? — ssu
Could be? Seems that all it takes is a hypothetical community for you not to answer what you yourself think about it.Could be. All it takes is a community that sees it that way. — frank
Was so intimate?Again, could be. I think women's issues stand apart because a woman's relationship to her oppressors was so intimate: it was her sons, father, brothers, and lovers. — frank
So, a new way of doing business. Stir the country up with issues of racism, then watch the stock market.
If true it’s a dangerous precedent. Well, interesting, anyway, especially if you look at target audiences and their political views based on identity politics — Brett
And this actually just shows the absurdity of the whole issue. — ssu
I believe that when you are actually in Rome surrounded by Romans. Yet even there it doesn't mean you change totally what you think and become a different person. Being diplomatic doesn't mean you change your beliefs just to appease people you talk to. At least in a democracy you can speak freely. In a totalitarian state you do watch what you say, just not to get your hosts into an awkward situation or in trouble.When in Rome, do as the Romans do. That's what I think. — frank
Like I said, hilarious over-analyzing over what's in actuality a straightforward answer. One of Nike's biggest brand ambassadors criticized the design of a product and Nike pulled it. That's it. This isn't even about "identity politics". Nike's core audience is simply younger and more liberal than the general population. — Maw
Quite unlikely. The obvious answer is Nike just trying to manage a somewhat surprising situation in the best possible way. The idea that they 'planned' this all along is quite silly. You don't make a shoe that is then planned to be pulled off out of negative feedback from an athlete that is promoting your stuff. That isn't cunning marketing plan. — ssu
Has anybody here actually agreed or defended Colin Kaepernick's view that the Betsy Ross flag is a symbol of hate and an offensive slave-era emblem? — ssu
The flag represents the political state, and the political state exists as the ideology, which is gone because we do not support it. Why ought we support that flag? — Metaphysician Undercover
At least in a democracy you can speak freely. In a totalitarian state you do watch what you say, just not to get your hosts into an awkward situation or in trouble. — ssu
Taking Colin Kaepernick to be the face of Nike was the 'controversial' trick that you refer to. That was indeed intensional: that made Nike look good, progressive and active to the younger crowd they are after.I agree with Harry. To create a controversy is one of the oldest publicity tricks in the book — Metaphysician Undercover
I did. — Metaphysician Undercover
The flag represents the political state, and the political state exists as the ideology, which is gone because we do not support it. Why ought we support that flag? — Metaphysician Undercover
the political state exists as the ideology, which is gone because we do not support it. — Metaphysician Undercover
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