And then you get those silly Gettier problems. — T Clark
Assign a factor to the epistemological reliability of your credible witness? God's validated word is 1.0, your credible witness is given a prior of .8. The contention then is that your state of knowledge of this fact is, itself, approx. .8. — JosephS
Totally agree. And I have gotten so much shit over the years for saying the T should be taken out. First, because it implies that there are two criteria for knowledge 'justification and truth. When in fact, there is no second process after evaluating the justification where we then look to see it is true. If we have evidence of a black swan, then the justification that there are lots of white ones is poor justification. When we evaluate the justification we will look for counerexamples and lack of logic, but we cannot determine now if in the long run what we consider true today will be true tomorrow. Adding the true is confused. — Coben
Negative justification is trickier than positive justification. Furthermore, positive justification deals with the physical world where we can look at the world and draw conclusions. Negative justification is lack of evidence and is much weaker. — Noah Te Stroete
And if you thought of knowing that way, then, for example, you'd have to say that in terms of the sciences, we categorically can never know anything, because it's a basic tenet of science methodology that any claim is open to revision in the face of new evidence. In other words, it's a basic tenet that any scientific claim could be wrong. It's never impossible that a scientific claim is wrong. Taking a claim so that it's impossible that it can be wrong means that we're no longer doing science. — Terrapin Station
Or....there is some subtlety hidden in the negation that escapes me, and the whole OP actually has some epistemic value. — Mww
Truth is conditioned by thought, knowledge is conditioned by possibility; both are conditioned by time. I don’t see as one will ever be a requirement for the other. Not all truths are known and not all knowledge is true.
On the other hand, I know I detest Lima beans, so it is absolutely required that it be true Lima beans be something in order for me to know I detest them. When I was 6 it was 18 steps from my bed to the bathroom. When I was 16 it was 14 steps from my bed to the bathroom. The truths and the knowledges of each set of circumstances are exactly the same, but not so are all the states-of-affairs.
One can talk about truth, or one can talk about knowledge, for days. But trying to put them together is a whole ‘nuther can of metaphysical worms. — Mww
Truth is conditioned by thought, knowledge is conditioned by possibility; both are conditioned by time — Mww
On the other hand, I know I detest Lima beans, so it is absolutely required that it be true Lima beans be something in order for me to know I detest them. When I was 6 it was 18 steps from my bed to the bathroom. When I was 16 it was 14 steps from my bed to the bathroom. The truths and the knowledges of each set of circumstances are exactly the same, but not so are all the states-of-affairs. — Mww
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