↪god must be atheist How wrong you are: I am not religious at all! — Janus
Scientism doesn’t provide any cogent arguments that science can explain everything. That’s the point. Scientism is the religion. Science includes fields of study and the scientific method. I don’t think Janus is religious by the way. — Noah Te Stroete
I neither believe, nor disbelieve, in God, since there is no empirical evidence either way, and I have had no personal experience of God, as some say they have had. — Janus
But you can't both beleive and disbelieve at the same time and in the same respect. — god must be atheist
Religions all involve a god figure, who has supernatural powers. — god must be atheist
Scienticism does not claim that it can explain everything. — god must be atheist
I didn't say I "both" believe and disbelieve; I said I neither believe nor disbelieve. Are you reading selectively or merely poorly? — Janus
You’re being childish. You’re trying to be a bully, but you haven’t the strength to be effective. — Noah Te Stroete
Can’t one withhold judgment? — Noah Te Stroete
What do you mean? Please elaborate. — god must be atheist
You’re trying to be a bully, but you haven’t the strength to be effective. — Noah Te Stroete
What are you doing here then? :joke:But this is not kindergarten — god must be atheist
The only medium in which logic and reason can not be ineffective is a medium of not understanding, or in a medium of pretense non-understanding.
I am not a bully. You mistake those who don't hold your opinion to be bullies. I am simply a person who strongly disagrees with you, and I stated my reasons for my disagreement. You in turn can't defend against my reasonable disagreement, and therefore you call me childish, a bully. But this is not kindergarten, this is a philosophy website. If you don't present valid counter-arguments, then you do not belong here. — god must be atheist
A belief or disbelief is an active thing. Without empirical evidence or a personal experience, one can withhold judgment, neither believing nor disbelieving. — Noah Te Stroete
A belief or disbelief is an active thing. Without empirical evidence or a personal experience, one can withhold judgment, neither believing nor disbelieving. — Noah Te Stroete
Belief is not a judgement. You can withhold judgement but belief isnot an active thing. It bases itself on things thjat have no or very little empirical evidence. If empirical evidence were extant, you would not need belief, you'd have knowledge. — god must be atheist
You’re being a bully because you are presenting a false dichotomy. I’ve explained this. You’re either an ineffective bully, or you don’t understand the fallacy you are committing. — Noah Te Stroete
I seriously have to explain to you what science is a standard for?! Hard pass. — DingoJones
Again, this subjective experience you reference multiple times — DingoJones
I cannot believe I exhibit subjective self awareness? This is the most basic, singular certainty anyone can have, it has zero need of the scientific method. Terrible example for you to use here. — DingoJones
This is incoherent, unjustified and may be false. I reject your premises, and your conclusion doesn’t follow. — Noah Te Stroete
I can’t argue with people who are under the delusion that they make sense, understand logic, and are intelligent when they are none of the aforementioned. — Noah Te Stroete
Belief is not a judgement. You can withhold judgement but belief isnot an active thing. It bases itself on things thjat have no or very little empirical evidence. If empirical evidence were extant, you would not need belief, you'd have knowledge. — god must be atheist
Your lack of comprehension of the language is brilliantly displayed here.Not disbelieving is not necessarily equivalent to believing. This should be obvious. — Janus
Do I believe Trump colluded with the Russians? No, because I have no evidence that he did. Do I disbelieve that Trump colluded with the Russains? No, because I have no evidence that he did not. — Janus
"Not not believeing is not believing." This is your statement. — god must be atheist
Belief need not be based on empirical evidence. I believe in extraterrestrial life in this galaxy, but there is no empirical evidence for that belief. — Noah Te Stroete
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