When I read or discuss a bit of philosophy I become frustrated with the way people quote a philosopher as if the philosopher has the answer. — Denovo Meme
Science has fundamental laws and principles by which we obtain a 0.05 answer. — Denovo Meme
What is the philosophical equivalent? — Denovo Meme
What is the philosophical equivalent? — Denovo Meme
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When I read or discuss a bit of philosophy I become frustrated with the way people quote a philosopher as if the philosopher has the answer. An equally questionable refuting quote is tossed back. There is never a shred of data, worldly evidence of universality, or even revolutionary insight. Is philosophy a professors version of drunken ranting in a bar? Science has fundamental laws and principles by which we obtain a 0.05 answer. What is the philosophical equivalent?
Thanks — Denovo Meme
Investigating what science is and what philosophy might meta-be does not help Joe Average to put food on the table. Joe wants to know how to use science and philosophy to pay the electricity bill.
I really do wish to know why we should listen to philosophers. What is their credibility score. — Denovo Meme
The gist of all this is that philosophy surrounds, supports, finds critical problems with the very science you seem to pit as "against" philosophy or somehow separate from it. Science has been in the philosophy family, the whole time though. — schopenhauer1
Has it become a parasite on humanity. Personally I do not think so. But it is looking scabby. — Denovo Meme
Has it become a parasite on humanity. — Denovo Meme
I will keep asking the question: Should listen to philosophers. What is their credibility score? — Denovo Meme
On the other hand, take engineers: mechanical; electrical; chemical; civil; aeronautical; genetic et cetera. These fields all rely on the same empirically proven laws and principles. — Denovo Meme
My original post was an appeal for someone to say what philosophy uses to gain credibility? — Denovo Meme
Investigating what science is and what philosophy might meta-be does not help Joe Average to put food on the table. Joe wants to know how to use science and philosophy to pay the electricity bill. — Denovo Meme
I really do wish to know why we should listen to philosophers. — Denovo Meme
Schopen, dude, I asked a question. Yes? Philosophy is about asking questions and trying to answer them. When I ask a question like, "Why should we listen to philosophers?" you have no business asking me why do electricity? It is worse than rhetorical, its obfuscation. — Denovo Meme
The philosophy of engineering is an emerging discipline — Denovo Meme
I do not believe that gaining mainstream credibility is much of a goal in philosophy. — Denovo Meme
They would want to know because they concerned for peoples' well being. Apparently you are not concerned. — Denovo Meme
When I read or discuss a bit of philosophy I become frustrated with the way people quote a philosopher as if the philosopher has the answer. An equally questionable refuting quote is tossed back. There is never a shred of data, worldly evidence of universality, or even revolutionary insight. Is philosophy a professors version of drunken ranting in a bar? Science has fundamental laws and principles by which we obtain a 0.05 answer. What is the philosophical equivalent? — Denovo Meme
Science has fundamental laws and principles by which we obtain a 0.05 answer. What is the philosophical equivalent? — Denovo Meme
This is a great post. I have posted similar thoughts many times, but I don't think I've done it as well as you have. — T Clark
I really do wish to know why we should listen to philosophers. — Denovo Meme
This summarizes my understanding of the proper goals and methods of philosophy. When I read this, I have this image of me sitting in an empty room, maybe 10 feet wide by 25 feet long. It looks like a school corridor – concrete block walls painted yellow, white ceiling, gray linoleum floor, ceiling lighting. No windows, no furniture, one grey metal door at the end. I’ll add a chair, I don’t want to have to sit on the floor. There, alone, I have everything I need to figure out the nature of reality and the meaning of existence. The ultimate lazy person’s philosophy. No need to read or study, just watch. Don’t even watch. — T Clark
I have never studied philosophy. I read occasional popular articles that purport to be philosophical. However, after a life of engineering and science gave me a sledge hammer and Occums Razor, I realised that philosophy, as some people use it, has no tools. It has lotsa sports equipment for people to play GOTCHA. And when the fans have left and the lights are turned off, the homeless are still lying under the bridge. — Denovo Meme
See what I mean, NOTHING should be taken at face value. That is the philosophical approach. To take things as just the way they are presented to you, would be uncritical and non-self-reflective. — schopenhauer1
In my dotage — Denovo Meme
"Science is the things we found out and how we found them out." — Denovo Meme
So, dudes, what is going on on this site? Is there a crisis? — Denovo Meme
Except that's not what science is. You can't leave out "systematic," it's what makes it science instead of "stuff I know." It's what makes the scientific method philosophy.
Nope. I can leave out "systematic." A lot of investigation have a lot of suck-it-and-see tomfoolery. AND humans are far from being UNsystematic. From chipping conoidal stones to winking at someone in hope. Saying science must be systematic is superfluous.
So, dudes, what is going on on this site? Is there a crisis?
— Denovo Meme
No crisis. I think of it this way. I read a lot - a little philosophy, science, science fiction, other odds and ends. I used to love movies and TV. A lot of those things are crap too, but if I started now and read 12 hours a day for the rest of my life, I could never read 1% of the worthwhile, high quality, moving books in English that have been written. I couldn't even start to keep up with what is written every day.
That's the secret - don't read the crap. If you can't tell what's good and what's crap, it's your fault, not the craps. — T Clark
Nope. I can leave out "systematic." A lot of investigation have a lot of suck-it-and-see tomfoolery. AND humans are far from being UNsystematic. From chipping conoidal stones to winking at someone in hope. Saying science must be systematic is superfluous.
That's the secret - don't read the crap. If you can't tell what's good and what's crap, it's your fault, not the craps.
— T Clark
Would you say that to a kid? — Denovo Meme
Science has fundamental laws and principles by which we obtain a 0.05 answer. What is the philosophical equivalent? — Denovo Meme
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