How does desire lead to the actual activity? How does the desire arise for you? — schopenhauer1
What makes you do any particular activity throughout your daily life? — schopenhauer1
Can you explain? — schopenhauer1
Can you explain? — schopenhauer1
What makes you do any particular activity throughout your daily life? — schopenhauer1
Ah the whole causal chain. So what is it that makes you do any particular activity in your daily life? I mean this as a subjective experiencer of someone who is doing the activity. — schopenhauer1
It's completely unconscious. — T Clark
All of these are artificial forms of motivation. Habit. External. — T Clark
All of these are artificial forms of motivation. Habit. External. There's another kind. It's the way I know all motivation should be. I picture it as a spring bubbling up from underground - somewhere inside me. It's the kind of motivation that feels right, that makes me happy. I know it's from the best, truest part of me. But it's hard. The signal is easy to disrupt - that's what the other types of motivation are - disruptions of the way I know I'm supposed to act.
It's completely unconscious. I guess it's what Taoists call acting without acting. I don't think any true motivation comes from conscious thought. Thought can stop or guide action, but it can't provide the fuel. That's why I think all the questions and controversies about consciousness are overblown. They miss the point. — T Clark
That which my will/brain has come to be of the instant. Causes/decisions precede the subjective awareness of them. — PoeticUniverse
Not all of it. Not for me. I need a good reason to do a lot of things. Also, my emotions (which I’m consciously aware of), help or hinder performing a certain activity. I’m not consciously aware of which neurons fire to cause these feelings and thoughts about good or no good reasons, but that doesn’t mean that it’s all unconscious. Or did I misunderstand you? — Noah Te Stroete
Well, I don't mean someone is unaware of the feelings associated with motivation, only that they are unconscious of their source. Of course I was speaking based on my own experience, although I seriously doubt that motivation is truly generated from our conscious thoughts. — T Clark
Can you give an example in "real time" how this would look in your daily life activities and decisions? — schopenhauer1
So you both believe that consciousness is an epiphenomen? — Noah Te Stroete
So you both believe that consciousness is an epiphenomen? — Noah Te Stroete
The brain uses it for something, else it wouldn't have evolved. — PoeticUniverse
But what about you in particular makes you more motivated than me or Schopenhauer? — Noah Te Stroete
If that means I think consciousness is riding in the car, but not driving, I guess the answer is yes, mostly. — T Clark
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