It was an example of a religion
— S
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Right. Which is why your argument was an overgeneralization. — Pantagruel
Providing mathematics has no input on fashion trends (and vice versa), could there be a contradiction? — AJJ
Providing mathematics has no input on fashion trends (and vice versa), could there be a contradiction?
— AJJ
But as I've said many times now, religion does, in at least some cases, have an input on worldly matters open to science, so you're breaking down the analogy. That's why the notion of two entirely separate and non-overlapping domains is bullshit propaganda. — S
So implicitly your answer is “no”. And therefore as long as religion has no input on scientific questions (how old is the earth?), and science has no input on questions of natural theology/philosophy (does God exist?), then there will be no contradiction. — AJJ
But from your post you seem to be saying they conflict only when they encroach on each other’s territory; not that they do in principle. — AJJ
So implicitly your answer is “no”. And therefore as long as religion has no input on scientific questions (how old is the earth?), and science has no input on questions of natural theology/philosophy (does God exist?), then there will be no contradiction.
— AJJ
No, that's not what I'm suggesting at all. — S
There are extremely prevalent religious beliefs, the content of which is in conflict with science — S
and also the respective methods of arriving at belief are opposed and incompatible for any given belief. — S
So, you aren't willing to bear the burden of your claims? — creativesoul
Sam Harris's The End of Faith — Wayfarer
This often also applies to anti-religious fanatics. — Wayfarer
The best is to leave them alone. If you don't, you may blow up in anger or in frustration by seeing them claim so many fallacious, improper, stupid, and ignorant facts and arguments, and then sticking by them despite overwhelming evidence, both a priori and empirical. — god must be atheist
The fact is, that facts and reason support anti-religionism — god must be atheist
Please show how I proved your point.Wayfarer and Coben, you just proved my point. — god must be atheist
You seem to be confusing the merits of a position with the behavior of the adherents. I was writing about the latter. Nothing I said is countered by what you say here.The fact is, that facts and reason support anti-religionism. You can't say "this applies to anti-religious as well." — god must be atheist
I didn't say that anti-religious people are toxic to me nor that they make me angry and frustrated.You are right that we, the anti-religious are toxic for you, make you angry and frustrated, — god must be atheist
I didn't say the debates should stop.I agree with you, however, that the debates should stop. They are fruitless, they are vengeful, and they create a level of unnecessary frustration. — god must be atheist
I don't believe in any God as described to me so far. They are all pathetically human constructs. — Drazjan
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