What I'd like is for you to give the specific characterization of the two terms that makes a distinction between them coherent. — Terrapin Station
might not be in my best interests to swim with sharks - for a number of possible reasons, and which may be related to other preferences, likes, or dislikes. But I don't see why that last part is presumably relevant, — Sapientia
This isn't entirely true. Corporations don't like him. They didn't give much to his campaign (whereas loads of them donated to Hillary) and they hate his trade protectionism. Look at the markets today, too. They will rebound, but there was real uncertainty about his presidency coming into the day. — Thorongil
Well, it's relevant because that's all that I'm arguing and that you're supposedly arguing against--that "best interests" is a matter of preferences. — Terrapin Station
Well, it's relevant because that's all that I'm arguing and that you're supposedly arguing against--that "best interests" is a matter of preferences. — Terrapin Station
It's in their best interests that they don't, — Michael
No, that doesn't argue against my original point, which I reiterated not long ago. So, why did you change the subject? — Sapientia
But it certainly doesn't follow that they are one and the same, — Sapientia
"I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I gave it to you straight last summer when I told you that Donald Trump would be the Republican nominee for president. And now I have even more awful, depressing news for you: Donald J. Trump is going to win in November."
"This wretched, ignorant, dangerous part-time clown and full time sociopath is going to be our next president. President Trump. Go ahead and say the words, 'cause you'll be saying them for the next four years: 'PRESIDENT TRUMP.'"
It wasn't changing the subject from my perspective. It was always what I was talking about. — Terrapin Station
It wasn't changing the subject from your perspective, therefore it wasn't changing the subject? — Sapientia
It could be from your perspective (and obviously it was). It's always from someone's perspective. — Terrapin Station
What are my interests that voting for Trump will be counterproductive to in your view? — Terrapin Station
The thought, judgement, belief, etc., is. But that isn't as significant as you might think. — Sapientia
Climate change is another one that might be applicable — Sapientia
This may take the next 20-30 years if not longer (again, Trump will not be able to provide the long-term answer IMO), but that corrupt status quo of unchecked capitalism with its dominance by moneyed interests is thankfully over, at least for the time being. — Erik
What determines that in your view? — Terrapin Station
I hope that above all else, every pollster, media station, and complacent liberal who is 'surprised' right now takes a long hard look at themselves, and realizes 'I am completely out of touch with reality, with my country, and the desires of the people, and have little conception of the way that people think or what they value.' — The Great Whatever
Empirically demonstrable effects on health, with "best interests" being defined in part as good health. — Michael
The wider linguistic community does the defining, not each individual. — Michael
Liberals and Democrats, etc. are, in a word, going to have to get "smarter" about winning. — BitterCrank
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