That's an incorrect bias, as it firstly doesn't have to be invented, secondly it would be proposed, not invented, and lastly an innate understanding isn't something limited to the human species.Funny how an 'innate understanding' had to be invented by theologians a couple of hundred years ago before which it was nowhere to be found. — StreetlightX
Funny how an 'innate understanding' had to be invented by theologians a couple of hundred years ago before which it was nowhere to be found. — StreetlightX
It's not contentious. — StreetlightX
And of course free-will is tainted by its theological roots - I'm not trying to 'insinuate' this: here's me being explicit about it: free-will is theological trash. — StreetlightX
As for concepts being 'conflated with 'that which they purport to address', wtf else are concepts if not designed specifically for address 'what they purport to address'. — StreetlightX
StreetlightX, for clarification, your objection of free-will in a Christian context is that it allows God off the hook when it comes to the problem of evil? — Hinterlander
We don't need secularized theological concepts. We need concepts utterly indifferent to theology and any of its concerns. — StreetlightX
Maybe coin the major writings as "atheology". — Hinterlander
Bataille tried this already. In any case no. The only properly atheist response to God is: 'what's that? Never heard of it; doesn't sound very interesting, got better things to do'. — StreetlightX
Okay, so you also think that will is only partly free. Can you do any better than Shamshir at providing an acceptable basis for how you supposedly know this to be the case? The determined part seems more supportable, whereas this idea of free will seems only to warrant scepticism at best. — S
If we are not willing something, then what are we doing? — Hinterlander
I said I think there is a continuum between constraint and freedom, I didn't say I know the will is partly free. — Janus
To you it may "seem" that determinism is "more supportable". That says more about you than anything else. — Janus
Let's say I have a choice between having a chocolate eclair and a jam doughnut and I don't mind which. However I somehow manage to choose one. Is my choice determined or free? — bert1
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