How does the everything modify itself if it can't be modified from without? — csalisbury
Like what's being chosen to be measured somehow, through that choosing, is already smuggling in the conclusions it advocates. do you get that vibe too? — csalisbury
As to to stereoscopy, what if its stereoscopic all the way down?
2. I only know pop science so this is that. Electrons, so I'm told, exist in some kind of weird probability space. They don't exist anywhere but are smeared proabilistically with some places more likely, others less, and are effectively nowhere til [something] collapses them. I know no science but if an electron collapses in an improbable place does that radically alter what's probable after? — csalisbury
Two paradigms
(1) paths of thought traversing the same terrain in different ways, with various missteps on the onehand and helpful trailblazing on the other
(2) Foolishness (worshipping spooky idols) and clearheadedness (seeing things as they are)
I think (2) is likely to become the thing it worries about. — csalisbury
Two flat pictures that contradict at the margins. And the third, non-picture, that is the integration of information, that 'looks like' a 3d scene... We contradict each other at the margins while agreeing almost everywhere, and see our relationship as we see the world, and perhaps it is the relationship that has the better view.
The domination of a creature's forward directed stereoscopic vision, necessitates its seeing everything in terms of seeing, if you see what I mean (no freedom there). So science takes the transcendent view and can change nothing; it takes the scientist to even construct an experiment. Like Jesus. Every good scientist comes to that moment when he has to infect himself with the disease he thinks he might be able to cure. Take up your cross and follow me...
I think if we could follow it 'all the way down' there would be a limitless limit like the dateless gate, where the integration is complete and the conversation falls into silence...
Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we... — unenlightened
Silence appeals to me, maybe just because I can't stop talking, but if we use stereoscopic in the way you mean, then 'all the way down' could also mean conversation and relation all the way down. — csalisbury
I ought to say something profound about John Cage 4'33 — unenlightened
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