Anything that involves the question(s) of Who(?) does What(?) to Whom(?) for Whose benefit(?) at the social level. — StreetlightX
Ah, but real democracy has never been tried... — Snakes Alive
If the answer to that is "everyone," I don't get how it would be identity politics. — Terrapin Station
We all know what it means — Saphsin
And that wasn't the idea. If our answer to "who" etc. is "everyone ," then how would it amount to identity politics? — Terrapin Station
I didn't say it would 'amount to identity politics'. — StreetlightX
You're free to believe that, but belief in the power of a political ideology in spite of all evidence to the contrary strikes me as deluded fanaticism. — Snakes Alive
, I was dismayed when a particularly well spoken civil rights activist made the claim that 'all politics is identity politics'. The problem wasn't that he was wrong. He was in fact quite right about that. — StreetlightX
But it seems like there's a double humiliation involved in taking this line – to shill for democracy is not only to shill for the powers (probably against your own interests), but to do so based on a vision of that state taught to you by a foreign power's (America's) propaganda. — Snakes Alive
If anything, Americans are pretty awful at the whole thing. — StreetlightX
Of course the things I've listed is contingent on my view of the world and how it works, but I find it hard to imagine that someone engaged with politics to some depth but with a different world view wouldn't also list a similar myriad of things. — Saphsin
During a recent public round table discussion, I was dismayed when a particularly well spoken civil rights activist made the claim that 'all politics is identity politics'. The problem wasn't that he was wrong. He was in fact quite right about that. The problem was what the statement was meant to imply. — StreetlightX
As to identity, identity is about “who am I”. Some will look to their skin color and proclaim to have discovered who they are. Some will more readily associate who they are to tendencies of intention and the personas that follow suit. Both of these, however, will constitute identity affiliations. — javra
rather than membership in a community — NOS4A2
the land, proximity and common enterprise — NOS4A2
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