No, he has not been convicted of any crimes. Trump has not even been accused by a grand jury indictment of anything, let alone being a co-conspirator of a crime. — NOS4A2
4. Cohen’s Illegal Campaign Contributions
On approximately June 16, 2015, Individual-1, for whom Cohen worked at the time, began an ultimately successful campaign for President of the United States. Cohen had no formal title with the campaign, but had a campaign email address, and, at various times advised the campaign, including on matters of interest to the press. Cohen also made media appearances as a surrogate and supporter of Individual-1. (PSR ¶ 39).
During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories – each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1 – so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. (PSR ¶ 51). In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1.
Right, he’s an idiotic, unethical, libertine with a foul mouth. He’s full of bluster and arrogance. He’s a reality tv show host. He eats Big Macs and overdone steaks with ketchup. What is this but sanctimony and snobbery? — NOS4A2
You assume people care. You do, other Democrats do. The average Republican clearly doesn't because anything is better than a Democrat. They'd have voted in a rabbid homosexual dingo as long as he's not a Democrat. If they did care, he'd never gotten elected in the first place.
You're also assuming there will be fair and balanced reporting by Fox and Bteibart. So I guess you'll feel really good about it all with your buddies that already think as you do but it's not an election strategy. Especially since running a platform on "I'm not as bad as Trump" isn't exactly inspiring.
If the Democrats are incapable of crossing the divide and finding neutral ground and understanding with the typical Trump voter, it will just be more of the tribal "I'll never vote for a Democrat/Republican" that we've seen for decades now. — Benkei
Especially since running a platform on "I'm not as bad as Trump" isn't exactly inspiring. — Benkei
No, Cohen's testimony alone isn't enough to indict, but there is at least a bit more than that. It may or may not be sufficient. What makes you so certain it's not? Is it the statements of a proven pathological liar, who is on camera lying about having knowledge of the payment?
Are you saying moral rules, especially as they pertain to good governance, are "but sanctimony and snobbery"? Because that would explain a lot.
I have not judged Trump guilty of this charge. I haven't even said there's necessarily enough evidence to even indict him. You are the one expressing confidence that Trump committed no crime.No, Cohen's testimony alone isn't enough to indict, but there is at least a bit more than that. It may or may not be sufficient. What makes you so certain it's not? Is it the statements of a proven pathological liar, who is on camera lying about having knowledge of the payment?
Michael Cohen was a lawyer. His duty as a lawyer is to interpret and advise clients as to the law, regulations, legal rights and obligations. You’re assuming, without evidence, that Trump was privy to complex campaign finance laws and ordered Cohen to break them. That’s utter nonsense. — NOS4A2
That’s right. You couldn’t do it. We could put 10 of you guys up there and you’d melt trying to do Trumps job. All you guys can do is pretend you’re morally superior, but not actually prove it. — NOS4A2
Well, no president has ever gone through four National Security Advisors within three years. Given the stakes involved, that degree of incompetence would be hard to match, I must admit.
There is nothing incompetent about firing employees, especially when they’re failing their duties. — NOS4A2
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