This forum is also full of illogical theorizing by religious thinkers. — god must be atheist
I haven't found that to be true. There are a lot more vocal atheists here than believers. The atheists also tend to be more rabid. Case in point - Gnostic Christian Bishop. — T Clark
Under this light, maybe you can understand our, the atheists', fervent attacks against ANYTHING that has to do with religions or with gods. It is an outdated, anachronistic, should I say stupid and ignorant, belief system, and deserves no respect. Atheists will leave no stone unturned to show this, and I think the smart thing for people would be to post on segregated forums: atheists where no religious talk is allowed, and the religious, where no atheist talk is allowed. A lot, and I mean a lot, of ill feelings and futile argumenting could be avoided this way. — god must be atheist
find that atheists are primarily responsible for whatever conflict there is. I would not support your plan for segregation, but if it were decided to implement it here on the forum, my vote would be to evict the atheists. — T Clark
According to you, as I understand, it is not the fault of stupid, outdated, unsubstantiated and improbable beliefs and their ensuing dogma that is the cause of stirfe and conflict, but the people who point out that the dogmas are borne from improbable beliefs, from stupid, outdated, and unsubstantiated claims. — god must be atheist
I went back and checked for the last week. During that period, there were 18 active threads that dealt with the existence of God. Based on the opening post, thirteen of them were anti-religion and five of them I classified as neutral. I didn't identify any pro-religion threads, which doesn't mean that there weren't pro-religion posts within some of the threads. Based on that limited survey, if you guys would just keep your mouths shut, there would be very little discussion of religion on the forum. — T Clark
Doesn't this kinda amount to a truism? We'll all disagree a lot less when we only talk to people we agree with? — Artemis
I've been on the receiving end of more than one diatribe by a theist or agnostic here, so "solely" is just plain false. — Artemis
But, still, it’s annoying and I think it has negative consequences. 1) It makes the forum less pleasant and collegial 2) It cuts off the possibility of serious religious discussions. 3) It lowers the overall quality of the forum and 4) It pisses me off. — T Clark
As you know, I'm trying my best to be a nice and considerate philosopher. So, perhaps you can help me. If someone has a religious belief that is stupid or ridiculous, what should I do? Should I give them a hug? — S
Why do you find religious intolerance more offensive than say free will intolerance or capitalism intolerance or the various other intolerances pervasive throughout this forum? Why demand special respect for the religious (a group I tend to often actually align with)? If I need special protection for my views, then that could mean my views can't stand on their own merit. — Hanover
...calling something ridiculous or stupid isnt always just a rude, hyperaggressive or otherwise dick move. — DingoJones
There are rabid anti-theists who are obnoxious, like that Gnostic guy you just barfs out rants but there are just as many other obnoxious folks, the anti natalist guys, the general personalities of sime folks...singling out the ant- religious folks is making a special plea for religious beliefs to be exempt from discourse. Too bad, its not a special set of ideas, — DingoJones
You are acting like its someone elses responsibility that the ideas dont make sense, but its not. Its on the religious people and their goofy ideas. Sorry some people believe in nonsense but they do. Its not rude to point it. — DingoJones
That's not true though. It's not causing a problem to be critical of religion. Religion has much to be critical of. — S
Did you read my posts? 13 out of eighteen threads concerning religion in the past two weeks were anti-religion. None were pro-religion. If anti-religionists would just stop squawking, the whole set of issues as they relate to the forum would shrink almost to nothing. — T Clark
Your post did not even begin on a helpful note, so it is bizarre you expect people here to follow a more respectful tone.
It is just some passive aggressive complaint about one user and supposedly "anti-religious" people "pissing you off"—posing no helpful guidelines for people to follow.
All it says is, TL;DR — "atheists and the anti-religious" should keep their mouths shut. What does this even contribute to the forum? — Swan
Yes, I read that part. But like I literally just said to you, it's not a problem for there to be discussions critical of religion. It would actually be more of a problem if discussions critical of religion were a rarity. — S
I have also witnessed atheists complaining about theists incessantly posting bible verse and scripture in an attempt to shut down a philosophical discussion or debate. — HarryBalsagna
While I agree with the sentiment that respect is important in furtherance of substantive discourse, I find it difficult to agree with things akin to "the oppression of Judeo-Christian thought". Thick skin is kind of a requisite to entering into a forum such as this. If you're not willing to have your ideas or beliefs challenged, perhaps this is not the right place for you... otherwise, let the moderators be the judge of what crosses the line. — HarryBalsagna
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