Benkei
Terrapin Station
Baden
Buxtebuddha
Terrapin Station
Five seconds on Google turned this up: — Baden
Baden
Terrapin Station
You asked for a source of views expressed by Bannon that people are troubled by. You got one. Those are some of his views. They trouble some people. Don't expect a running commentary on it. Read it and figure it out yourself. — Baden
Mongrel
Terrapin Station
White nationalists talk to each other in code when in public. "Law and Order" has been code for racism since the Nixon administration. — Mongrel
Mongrel
but that doesn't imply that someone is a white nationalist when they use a phrase like "law and order." — Terrapin Station
Buxtebuddha
Mongrel
BC
“Are there racist people involved in the alt-right? Absolutely,” he told Mother Jones at this year’s Republican National Convention. “Look, are there some people that are white nationalists that are attracted to some of the philosophies of the alt-right? Maybe. Are there some people that are anti-Semitic that are attracted? Maybe. Right? Maybe some people are attracted to the alt-right that are homophobes, right? But that’s just like, there are certain elements of the progressive left and the hard left that attract certain elements.” — Steven Bannon
Pushing that divide between "real" America and Hollywood is so perturbing because it's hard not to view it as a dog-whistle to anti-Semites. Hollywood is so often code for "Jewish" and the subject of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories as under Jewish or Zionist control that Bannon's framing of Hollywood as the enmy is irksome. — Bustle writer
BC
Terrapin Station
I thought young people . . . — Bitter Crank
“Are there racist people involved in the alt-right? Absolutely,” he told Mother Jones at this year’s Republican National Convention. “Look, are there some people that are white nationalists that are attracted to some of the philosophies of the alt-right? Maybe. Are there some people that are anti-Semitic that are attracted? Maybe. Right? Maybe some people are attracted to the alt-right that are homophobes, right? But that’s just like, there are certain elements of the progressive left and the hard left that attract certain elements.” — Steven Bannon
Benkei
How is that at all racist? (I'm just doing one at a time. If you don't feel that one is racist, we can move on.) — Terrapin Station
Terrapin Station
That's assuming his summary was a fair assessment. Alt-right is a movement not a set of principles. It's made up of racists, xenophobes, mysogynists etc. (just look at the publications on Breitbart) and therefore alt-right becomes racist etc. For Bannon to pretend this causality is reversed and that people are attracted to some set of ephemeral principles is a simple sleight of hand. It's a smart move, you never get caught saying anything outright unacceptable, you just facilitate others to do it for you.
So in that light, highly likely he has issues with for instance Jews. — Benkei
BC
you must facilitate others to do it for you. — Benkei
Benkei
So you're going to declare that he's racist whether he's actually said anything racist? Guilt by association in your view (and per your assessment of what "alt-right" refers to, etc.)? — Terrapin Station
Terrapin Station
Baden
BC
Geez, if you think I'm young I'm guessing you're maybe in your 70s? — Terrapin Station
Thorongil
Israel's domestic and foreign policies are absurd. — Heister Eggcart
Mongrel
That you felt the need to express your apathy in the way you did betrays that you are apathetic to the degree that you implied. The truly apathetic person wouldn't respond like that and probably not even respond at all. — Thorongil
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