1. I know lots of Christians who say that other Christians are idolators. What about them and where are their emotions and their sin in this (as if it's any of our business)?
2. If one believes something better than all this, it ceases to be pathological. Your argument has failed because it claimed to be categorical. If you had made it weaker, it would be stronger.
3. Not all pain is caused by ourselves. The majority of it as I can see it, is inflicted on us by other people and by the universe, e.g earthquakes, meteorites.
↪A Gnostic Agnostic sin is defined as disobedience toward god, or gods. — hachit
2. So you admit your point was not categorical after all !!!
Admit you have NO IDEA who these people are or why they shouldn’t continue to call themselves by the name of any religion.
3. You sound dismissive of what people go through.
What is wrong with associating trouble to a cause?
I know a cult that blame the sufferer, they are initially plausible but so cynical. You should stop flinging suffering in people's faces I say!
You say that if anyone has emotion it is pathological. You blame them.
You should accept the circumstances of other people's lives (if they are any business of yours) as they are.
We presume you never go through anything yourself!
The accuser is the accused,
Some Hindus, most Marxist-Leninists (as in Cambodia) behave like the OP describes, are they "Abrahamic"? The agnostic atheists like GMBA, are they "Abrahamic"?
Some of us do sometimes do some of what is described, but the argument would have greater force if weakened.
In addition as GMBA points out, emotion sometimes doesn't accompany sin, sometimes precedes it, sometimes follows it.
There are no grounds for saying people should not associate their suffering to its cause (that may be instructional - e.g telling the relatives not to go to Cambodia). This is slyly glossed over with the throwaway word "instead".
The OP is merely telling us it's our fault we are sad. I think I've made it clear what I think of that.
The OP is merely telling me it's my fault I am sad. I think I've made it clear what I think of that.
I don't care how mixed up a character Father Abraham was, I insist on thinking straight and I insist on thinking a lot!
I believe that the ability to empathize with others, will bring suffering on that person.
Suffering is a negative emotion. The old and new testament said the Messiah would be a man of suffering.
I am interested in understanding how others understand 'sin'. What is 'sin'? What criteria is used to designate an act, body etc. as 'sinful'? Is ones idea of 'sin' in accordance with a "belief" system (ie. a religion)? Or is it derived and/or arrived at internally? — A Gnostic Agnostic
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