A simple counterexample would suffice and I will admit my hasty generalization. — NOS4A2
Trump fired James Comey on the advice of Sessions and Rosenstein. Given the recent IG report on Comey’s careless behavior, it seems it was the right call.
The rest are media accusations, not rising to any meaningful level of concern. — NOS4A2
Agreed. Isn't that why the public should be just as concerned with Trump asking for dirt on a political opponent from a foreign government?
This is a very important question to you: Are you OK with any President doing that? Be honest with us and yourself.
(Arguably, there's not necessarily a right answer-at this point anyway, but this will tell us a little bit how you, his base, or the GOP now thinks ethically.)
The other two examples are not the type of accusations I was talking about. The media’s whining and word-policing do not quite rise to that level.
Comey deserved to be fired and it was a good thing he was fired. — NOS4A2
What was inappropriate in the transcript? — NOS4A2
1. Then were you OK with the Mueller report? (At least 6 people from the campaign guilty of wrongdoing some of which are in jail.)
2. Your answer tells me that the GOP is no longer a conservative party. Case in point, I asked you about the deficit which you refused to answer; the GOP used to be fiscal hawk's, but you don't even care. What do you think of Rand Paul? John Kasich? Not extreme enough for you?
But wow, it took courage for you to answer that the way you did. Unfortunately your answer indicates you would endorse any President asking a Foreign Government for political favors.
I hope I'm wrong, but I'm beginning to wonder whether your party has lost its sense of moral and ethical righteousness. Like when Reagan was President. Hence, I dare you to prove me wrong:
Haha, ok then. "Give me examples! No not those examples!"
Using a call, made in your official function as president, to ask a foreign leader to meet with your personal attorney to discuss investigations, the topics of which you also personally specify.
I didn’t ask for examples of the media word-policing. — NOS4A2
The Ukrainian president brought up Guilliani and the investigation. Trump only said he would get Guilliani to call the Ukrainian president. — NOS4A2
Here’s the Biden sentence. Where does it mention Guilliani? — NOS4A2
"Whatever facts conflict with my worldview are merely media word-policing"
It doesn't. I don't think it's necessary to repeat "and also speak with Guiliani about that" in every sentence though.
But see, you're already busy doing exactly what I outlined above. Focusing solely on the transcript, and not the things implied by it, while intepreting all of Trumps statements in the most positive light.
Asking a Foreign Government to perform a "favor", which was the word used from the first transcript is ok to you? Rudy G. confirmed that no?
You left out that he specifically said “so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great”. So not only did he not mention Guilliani in relation to Biden, he was speaking about working with the Attorney General.
How will you spin that? — NOS4A2
I think the Mueller report was an anti-Trump witch hunt. I’m not ok with it because no one was convicted of the non-crime of Russian collusion for which they were being investigated. It was an unjust fishing expedition. — NOS4A2
The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.
I think it's unlikely he'd want Zelenskyy to only talk with Guiliani about the DNC server, but not the Biden investigation. I can think of no reason he'd want Guiliani involved in one investigation, but not in the other. It's not like Guiliani is a technical expert related to one of the topics but not the other.
I· wili. personally tell you that one of my assistants· spoke with Mr. Giuliani just.recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and. we will meet once
· he co�es to Ukraine.
Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the_ mayor of New York Ci:ty, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great.
Again, the Ukrainian president brought up Gulliani. — NOS4A2
Nothing about an investigation in regards to Giuliani. — NOS4A2
Because Trump had sent Guiliani to talk with Zelenskyys assisstant beforehand. Or do you think the two just randomly met?
Nothing except the entire context of that part of the conversation. As this sentence towards the end illustrates:
" I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call and I am also going to have Attorney General Barr call and we will get to the bottom of it."
But it's par for the course for you to focus on individual sentences in order to obfuscate the actual communication going on.
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