SJWists are by no means "decent folks" in my opinion. — Terrapin Station
Glad you agree, but there's nothing in your example that entails racism. — Terrapin Station
You were the one to bring up "SJWists", not me. I don't use that silly terminology. I was simply talking about decent folk. — Sapientia
but going back and forth like this wouldn't be productive, so perhaps we should end this discussion. — Sapientia
SJWism is what makes such things "racist" etc. — Terrapin Station
Racism is what makes things racist. — Sapientia
That we agree on. And when we find it, we can point it out maybe. In this case, we haven't found it. — Terrapin Station
No, but some of us have found comments which strongly indicate it. — Sapientia
, based on SJW-fueled idiocy — Terrapin Station
Oh, come now. There's no need to call opinions idiotic just because you disagree with them. — Ovaloid
No disagreement there. But I think there's a need to call them idiotic when they're idiotic. — Terrapin Station
I thought you meant since I came back. — Ovaloid
Take a gander at how Israel treats refugees and migrants, especially from African countries. It's a complete breakdown of Israel's supposedly "democratic" justice system. — Heister Eggcart
Israel is the only one? — Heister Eggcart
Rogue states like Iran? What does that even mean? The only part of the Israeli military that concerns itself with Iran directly is information and investigation. If by Israel's "military bulwark" you mean "we have nukes, sit down" then sure, I guess. You must, of course, admit this intimidation is one reason why Iran has become so worrisome for those in the West (who have nuclear weapons), because Iran wants them too. — Heister Eggcart
One could argue an outlier like North Korea embodies a purely homogeneous ethnic, (non)religious, and cultural nation state, yet I wouldn't see very many people say that NK is working as intended. — Heister Eggcart
I think you make the mistake of thinking that the more homogeneous a community is, there lessens then the possibility for division within said community. I don't think that follows very well. — Heister Eggcart
I wouldn't see the US as overcoming its divisions particularly well, now or in the past. — Heister Eggcart
If it's a Western value to tear down instead of build up, then perhaps this is why the West is so in love with Israel. — Heister Eggcart
Slowly shove them deeper into the desert, thus making them even madder, just as Israel is doing right now? — Heister Eggcart
These refugees have chosen Israel for a reason, presumably, and it wasn't because they felt they would be living in worse conditions compared to where they came from. — Thorongil
It's hard to have high standards, because it can be difficult to live up to them. However, it is better to live in a society in which the expectation is that they will be lived up to and where the failure to do so produces shame and political opposition than one in which such standards are rejected, as one sees in the neighboring countries these migrants didn't choose to come to.
It's not culturally homogeneous, though. The state has attempted to impose a certain culture onto its citizens by force, the result of which is not culture at all, but the obliteration of it, since culture is something that develops naturally and freely by the interaction of humans. — Thorongil
Well, if it's a mistake, then you need to show why it's a mistake, instead of merely declaring it to be as you have done here. — Thorongil
was making a comparative claim. Point me to another multi-ethnic, multi-religious, and multicultural society that is as populous, safe, prosperous, and free as the US. — Thorongil
To build up a society, one must first be confident that the beneficiaries of said building will actually appreciate and reciprocate it. That cannot be said of Palestinians, whose airwaves and political factions are filled with ethnic hatreds, religious bigotry, and injunctions to violence. — Thorongil
China would be one, actually, although only comparably, not exactly. Australia is more in line, especially given the fact that cities dominate its population centers. That all the minorities get along fairly well is impressive. Perhaps Spain could be included, but I'm less inclined to use them as a direct example. — Heister Eggcart
nor does Egypt, as a more Middle-eastern country. — Heister Eggcart
most migrants want to help benefit and build up Israeli society through working and stimulating the economy. — Heister Eggcart
One excuse given, by both the populace at large and the government, for forcing Indians to move from their homes to someplace else, is because "there are Indians over here, too!" — Heister Eggcart
Hanover: everyone hates each other anyway — csalisbury
I like that Trump is somewhat flippant – he strikes me as someone looking to win, and looking to have the biggest and best legacy he can. What that means is that where there is public outcry against a suggestion, he'll wheel it around and give people what they want. — The Great Whatever
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