You maintain your little world doing your pendulum swing.. Upkeep is really important here. You survive- go to work, consume, maintain your space.. In modern settings this is your property and living situation.. You look for entertainment.. this can be things to alleviate boredom including loneliness.. You look for a friend group, a mate, hobbies, etc. With a mate you may try to form a family unit so that you have an anchor- a unit to go back to.. A family is almost a manifestation of boredom multiplied.. If you have a unit of people, you will be that much more occupied.. Your world will be filled with concerns of other people at-the-ready for you to have to deal with.. Anything to avoid existence itself.. that churning will that moves your forward to the next task, ensuring you keep following activities related to cultural upkeep (survival, maintaining property, etc.), and making sure you find ways to entertain. — schopenhauer1
All this 'purpose' business: what sense can we make of finding a desire for purpose in us? There's a beginning. — mcdoodle
I was trying to show you that if there was no suffering then there still wouldn't be a purpose. You are saying a worthy purpose is to "heal the world" but what will it be once the world is healed? To keep healing it more? And then what? Just to keep healing and healing and healing as long as humans exist?
That just doesn't seem logical. We are animals at base level. All animals share this in common.
"What is a man. If his chief good and market of his time. Be but to sleep and feed? A beast, no more." -Hamlet
I am not talking about the meaning of life here but a purpose that sustains one from avoiding inevitable death. — intrapersona
That is not at all what I meant or said. I never used the word adventure. I said that life is interesting. The North Pole isn't. That's why I'm not there.What is the point of an adventure if it has no point?
In other words, who wants to go to the north pole just to walk around aimlessly on an ice sheet? You go travelling on holiday to experience the different cultures, take in new sights,smells etc. all of which contribute tothe purpose of travelling.
Philosophizing about life's purpose on a bigger scale than that doesn't map down to those same categories unfortunately, and is more akin to walking around the north pole aimlessly.
Effectively your argument is "live life to experience it" but that really doesn't make sense. It is like saying cary 1000 buckets of water just because you can bro! It isn't self-validating and can not be. — intrapersona
Death is no different from what I experienced before being alive - nothing. Death is simply non-existence after you existed. You didn't exist before you came into being, and that "experience" of not existing would be the same as after you existed. That is boring compared to existence. There is a much better chance that death isn't what you claim it to be - a superduper wizz bang thingamajig (and you are asking what the hell I mean?! Go figure.) I could see you excitedly running through that door labeled "Death" and then drop screaming into a void.What the hell does that even mean?
How could you even guage or calculate with approximation if it would be more appealing if you have no idea what it is like to be dead?
That is like asking which pocket you want to choose from, in the right... would you like this plastic banana that is electrified at 250v? or in the left... would you like this something a rather with a superduper wizz bang thingamajig.
Yeah harry hindu, being alive is more interesting that being a something a rather with a superduper wizz bang thingamajig... makes total sense :-} — intrapersona
There's absolutely no need for that. (btw mods, what is the point in banning bigotry if other kinds of meanness are left up?)then you drop dead on the floor, bahaha — intrapersona
How is it wrong? It doesn't mean I'm going to persue that goal to the detriment of others (nor is that necessarily the case with other goals for other people such as happiness or eudaimonia).You live for self-esteem? I can't imagined a more egotistic reason for a will to live — intrapersona
self-esteem = feeling good about oneself, not necessarily = other people feeling good about oneexclaiming to everyone "you see how good I am? — intrapersona
Why does virtue make to be or not to be not worth considering?
Why does wonder/wisdom make to be or not to be not worth considering?
Because they are so interesting, pleasurable? Interest or pleasure is an extension of the human experience much like my right pinky toe is too. Claiming Interest or pleasure is a purpose for life is absurd. You might here a great many people claim "The very sole purpose of my existence is to experience Interest or pleasure" but this makes as much sense as to say "the very sole purpose of my existence is to experience my right pinky toe".
Does contentment come at no cost though? Truely? The farmer has to work hard to pay his bills so that he can be content. Monks have to work for it by meditating all day. The experience of contentedness is a rare sight too, all around the world minus a few primitive tribes. — intrapersona
I am failing to see how these are a source for the purpose in ones life. — intrapersona
There is nothing imperative or absolutely true in such a lifeless picture; it is something we do to ourselves, and not something inevitably done to us by life. — John
What your describing sounds like a nightmare someone cooked up about a bunch of carbon based lifeforms who are too stupid to see the truth of their own situation and to cowardly to do anything about.
I think monks or ascetics who meditate would be an exception here as they focus on existential despair, emptiness and loneliness all day, although you don't seem to think so as the paragraph in your thread suggested. You claimed the lofty goal of nonexistence or a transcendental existence through ascetic practices is only a coping mechanism for the situation but never truly resolves it. — intrapersona
Don't confuse your genetic predisposition for survival IN your thoughts for your personal preferences over what you find fashionable. — intrapersona
The requirement that life should have meaning to me, personally, seems unreasonably self-centered. It's not for me. — unenlightened
Death is no different from what I experienced before being alive - nothing. Death is simply non-existence after you existed. You didn't exist before you came into being, and that "experience" of not existing would be the same as after you existed — Harry Hindu
There is a much better chance that death isn't what you claim it to be - a superduper wizz bang thingamajig (and you are asking what the hell I mean?! Go figure.) I could see you excitedly running through that door labeled "Death" and then drop screaming into a void. — Harry Hindu
How is it wrong? It doesn't mean I'm going to persue that goal to the detriment of others (nor is that necessarily the case with other goals for other people such as happiness or eudaimonia). — Ovaloid
self-esteem = feeling good about oneself, not necessarily = other people feeling good about one — Ovaloid
There's absolutely no need for that. (btw mods, what is the point in banning bigotry if other kinds of meanness are left up?) — Ovaloid
Harmony neither acts nor reasons, and contentment is the harmony of the lowest possible energy state of the complete system, when we no longer make distinctions between who we are and what we are doing. Instead of seeking happiness or pleasure or viewing work as drudgery, we merely accept them as we accept everything else in life including the evidence of our own senses and sensibilities. Which is why to be or not to be is not worth considering and why Socrates said death may be the greatest of all blessings. When we no longer make distinctions between who we are and what we are doing each moment can be a blessing. — wuliheron
This thread supports my belief that each of us should develop a fetish. Then we would have something to live for. — Real Gone Cat
I live for mostly hedonistic reasons. Do you want a list, or...?
It's irrational to dismiss that just because it is temporary. That it is temporary is inconsequential. For me, at least.
I don't live because I'm afraid to die. I'm not afraid to die. I just don't want to right now. — Sapientia
One lives and dies regardless of whether there is something to live for. It is neither sufficient nor necessary for a good life. — jkop
No, but it's a start. How can you possibly live a good life if you have nothing to live for? — Sapientia
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