Different sense of the term. — Terrapin Station
I wonder why you want to go on arguing about this word, and pretending that I am using it wrongly? — unenlightened
I don't know why you were reading my comments that way. — Terrapin Station
You are rather exemplifying the deficiencies of atheism — unenlightened
Two atheists need not have a single thing in common aside from the fact that they both lack a belief in gods. — Terrapin Station
I rather like to make the challenge of a faith in a non-existent God, but alas it is incomprehensible to most atheists, and they cannot even make a questioning response. — unenlightened
I'd have no problem with someone saying that I have "faith in a non-existent God." I don't consider it faith, — Terrapin Station
I have no problem with you saying this because I consider it meaningless drivel. No, actually it being meaningless is a big problem. If I say 'I have faith' and you say 'that is not faith' then you have a problem with what I say. At least in any sense of 'having a problem' that I am interested in. Or we could just go our separate ways... — unenlightened
That was a joke. We have to assume we speak the same language, and try and reach an understanding of what we agree and disagree about. So no, different people do not use the same term in different ways, or if they do, the difference has to be elucidated in terms that they do use in the same way. Otherwise, we are not communicating. — unenlightened
So if I say something like "I have faith in a god that does not exist." then if you want to engage, you cannot just let it pass that there is a contradiction in the terms according to how you understand them, you have elucidate to me what that contradiction is and thus enable me to begin to see which words we are using differently and what hidden premises are being invoked. In other words, you have to try and make sense of it. Or you can just say 'religious nutter' quietly to yourself and move on. I do that quite a — unenlightened
I didn't say anything about contradictions. — Terrapin Station
I'd have no problem with someone saying that I have "faith in a non-existent God." I don't consider it faith, — Terrapin Station
By the way, I was reading "faith in a non-existent God" as saying, "Faith in the non-existence of God." Is that not what you meant by that? — Terrapin Station
There is a contradiction there: someone says they have faith and you contradict them - 'that's not faith'. — unenlightened
when I said 'God is love' and you said 'love is an emotion. — unenlightened
Of course it isn't. — unenlightened
Based on your explanation apparently not. Which in turn begs the question as to why it exists? — 3017amen
But you can act and I do act all the acts that point to an uninformed observer that I love my neighbour, while I do not love my neighbour. — god must be atheist
The sense of the commandment is to act towards your neighbour in a loving way. It doesn't matter what you feel; the commandment is telling you to act a certain way despite whatever feelings you may or may not have. — Janus
He says, "Love thy neighbour". Why do you have to put interpretations on it? Because, frankly, it is a stupid imperative. — god must be atheist
How can you understand "Love thy neighbour" without interpreting it? — Janus
You need to understand the commandment in light of Christian thought and teaching. It is an ethical injunction; it tells you how to live in the world with others. It simply tells you to act towards others with kindness and fellow feeling. And that is obviously not "a stupid imperative", unless you happen to be a sociopath. — Janus
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