The color of your skin doesn't matter in matters of health. — ssu
True. However you doctor treats skin cancer of individuals and doesn't actually categorize you by race. Yet the doctor does categorize you by sex. The doctor won't be looking if you might have cervical cancer when you are categorized to be a male. Your sexual preferences or what you feel your gender is doesn't matter to the doctor.It does. White people are more susceptible to skin cancer. Black people suffer more severe cases of skin cancer when they do get it. — Benkei
But the whole question here is that if now, thanks to the new wokeness and all, that others than racists have to use these categorizations too. And not using them would somehow be improper: as if not using these categorizations would somehow mean that you are dismissing racism. Hence colorblindness is thought to be as a negative thing. As if people don't understand that treating people as individuals and not based on their skin color is one thing and to dismiss or to deny the existence of racism by referring to colorblindness is another thing.I understand you are worried that racists will use such categorizations to support or promote their ideology, but they are going to do that anyway. They do it with science, religion...anything they can use. Racists are the problem, not words and categories. — DingoJones
Then the next question is of course, if we take the others definition and go with it, do we then have an issue here?To your point, this is largely semantics. “Colourblind” is being defined differently by you and I. — DingoJones
Yes, it indeed isn't the same! That's my whole point.Being colourblind when judging the character of a person is not the same as the way you mean it as being blind to experiences or history relating to race/racism. — DingoJones
Then the next question is of course, if we take the others definition and go with it, do we then have an issue here? — ssu
The question could be put perhaps this way: if something has divided us and has caused discrimination, persecution and outright violence, what do we do with it? — ssu
I think it's telling: something indeed is amiss.Its been strange, watching the thread have such disagreement when as far as I can tell everyone basically agrees. — DingoJones
:up:Take away the term "apple pies" and apple pies no longer exist... — creativesoul
Basically yes. And reactions to buzzwords and labels, dog whistles and so on. It's not about trying to understand the other. How to interpret things in the worst possible way and to...win.Ok, I understand. Buzzwords and labels. — DingoJones
Are you reading these studies? This latest put heritability of intelligence by 12 yrs at 0.46, less than half. Ie intelligence at 12 is caused more by external factors than it is by genetics. — Isaac
...and proceeded to cite a study which demonstrated exactly what Artemis said - that IQ (in the context we're discussing) is determined in huge part by environment. — Isaac
I cannot understand it. Judging someone by the content of her character and not the color of her skin never once involves remaining ignorant of racism, or denying anyone’s experience or history. It never once involves literal color-blindness. It’s only about affirming another as an individual, without the need of dubious racial classifications. — NOS4A2
I 100% agree with you, but the super social justice warriors think that just being white makes you racist, just being male makes you sexist,sometimes even just being straight makes you homophobic and just being cis makes you transphobic. They are wrong, they also beleive that not treating minorities of any kind like special little snowflakes you are (insert minority here)phobic, and a s three minorities, no just treat me like a normal person, thanks.
Poor 'straight white males' always (at least since the 15th century CE) the long suffering victims of reverse discrimination, political repression & economic exploitation. :cry: :roll: :shade: — 180 Proof
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