You seem to think you have a stunningly good point - that Smith's belief about the occupier of the roles trouser content rigidly designates Jones.
a) it doesn't — Bartricks
Imagine that Smith has justified beliefs that Jones will get the job and that Jones has 10 coins in his pocket. Now imagine that prior to the interview someone pickpockets Jones and steals the 10 coins. Then imagine that, by pure fluke, just after the pickpocketing incident, Jones finds 10 coins in the street and puts them in his pocket. Then Jones gets the job. — Bartricks
...for any proposition P, if S is justified in
believing P, and P entails Q, and S deduces Q from P and accepts Q as a result
of this deduction, then S is justified in believing Q.
magine that Smith has justified beliefs that Jones will get the job and that Jones has 10 coins in his pocket. Now imagine that prior to the interview someone pickpockets Jones and steals the 10 coins. Then imagine that, by pure fluke, just after the pickpocketing incident, Jones finds 10 coins in the street and puts them in his pocket. Then Jones gets the job. — Bartricks
I speak out of total frustration. I have books on math and quantum physics and read them in a futile effort to understand what is being said. I get some of it, but not well enough to think in the terms of those fields of knowledge. Kind of like diabetes my head isn't sensitive to that insulin. :cry: — Athena
Oh yes, thinking of life as process instead of opposites is beautiful — Athena
What, are you 12 years old?Er, no. Now 'that' is inconsistent. I'm not inconsistent, you are. If knowledge is an attitude Reason adopts towards some true beliefs, then people have knowledge when they have a 'true belief' that Reason is adopting that attitude towards. Not when 'they' have the attitude, but when 'Reason' does. Owned.
O.W.N.E.D
It isn't dumb, but it will appear that way to the dumb. If it was dumb, why am I finding it so easy to own you?
I so own you. — Bartricks
Ducks are a particular type of species - ones that produce fertile offspring. Ducks are part of the genus we call "birds", because they have wings and feathers. Human actors and robots are of a different category altogether with one of the attributes that defines them is their adaptive abilities and ability to mimic other organisms to a wide degree.The common definition for a duck specifies the genus which serves to exclude other things that just happen to have a similar appearance or behavioral characteristics. — Andrew M
Bandwagon fallacy. When you can use the term in such a way as, "I know that I know nothing", then something is wrong with our understanding of the term. If we can use terms like, "God" without any clear understanding of what "God" is, then the way most people use words is not good evidence that most people know what they are talking about.I'm of the view that truth is a condition of (propositional) knowledge which I regard as a thesis about how people ordinarily use those terms. — Andrew M
What does language have to do with knowledge and our sense of reality and being part of the spirit/earth or separate from it? — Athena
I find thinking in opposites gives me great clarity in my understanding of things. — ovdtogt
Yes, thinking in opposites gives us clarity. I liked it when males were males and females were females, — Athena
I wasn't aware that the goal was to come up with beautiful ideas (which is subjective). I was trying to come up with useful ideas. IMO, useful ideas are beautiful ideas. The theory of evolution by natural selection is a beautiful idea because it solves the dualistic dichotomy of man vs nature by making man part of nature. — Harry Hindu
What does language have to do with knowledge and our sense of reality and being part of the spirit/earth or separate from it? — Athena
Ducks are a particular type of species - ones that produce fertile offspring. Ducks are part of the genus we call "birds", because they have wings and feathers. Human actors and robots are of a different category altogether with one of the attributes that defines them is their adaptive abilities and ability to mimic other organisms to a wide degree. — Harry Hindu
What is propositional knowledge vs other kinds of knowledge? — Harry Hindu
It is common in epistemology to distinguish among three kinds of knowledge. There's the kind of knowledge you have when it is truly said of you that you know how to do something—say, ride a bicycle. There's the kind of knowledge you have when it is truly said of you that you know a person—say, your best friend. And there's the kind of knowledge you have when it is truly said of you that you know that some fact is true—say, that the Red Sox won the 2004 World Series. Here we will be concerned with the first and last of these kinds. The first is usually called “knowledge-how” and the last is usually called “knowledge-that” or “propositional knowledge.” — Knowledge How - SEP
Saying that truth is a condition of propositional knowledge is also saying that false is property of propositional knowledge. — Harry Hindu
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