Islamic law does not allow for liberally inventing new extensions. Read the page on Sharia. The consensus of religious scholars will never defend the view that politicians would have the authority to extend Islamic law. That is unthinkable. — alcontali
It is futile to argue with you, as you are a fanatic. This is another opinion I formed on you ... I suggest the mods would remove you as a major troll. But it's their call, not mine. — god must be atheist
What has this got to do with anything we are talking about? Law has nothing to do with faith. — god must be atheist
What of faith in evidence?Now that I brought it up, what about "faith"? Isn't that belief despite lack of evidence? — TheMadFool
What of faith in evidence? — Shamshir
Based on my (leap of) faith, I chose to infer the latter. — 3017amen
Accordingly, at some point it becomes a choice or leap of faith. — 3017amen
The will to believe is a choice — 3017amen
A standard definition of miracle would be an out-of-the-ordinary event. — TheMadFool
That's clearly unacceptable as a definition, given the logical consequences. There aren't any miracles.
Hitchens is correct that miracles wouldn't necessarily imply, or even count as evidence towards, the existence of God. There are any number of possible explanations that could be given. It could be attributed to the work of magical faeries, for example. — S
Premise (2) is the more problematic one. One could object that God need not be posited to explain violations of the laws of nature. For instance, the only reason we have to believe that there are unbreakable laws of nature in the first place is because we have never, in the past, seen otherwise. But it does not follow from this that future events must follow the laws of nature. Just because we have always seen things follow the laws of nature in the past does not mean that things will always continue to do so — Teaisnice
1. If God exists, then He would be maximally powerful.
2. If God is maximally powerful, then He can violate the laws of nature at will.
3. If God can violate the laws of nature at will, then miracles are possible.
4. Therefore, if God exists, then miracles are possible. — Teaisnice
Sure.....In the context of miracle's/logic, as well as religious beliefs, I would say more specifically the choice is made through inductive reasoning. That's an important distinction.
The other distinction you made: gravity--->computation and/or instinct--->'denial' or ignoring both leads to death.
And another point you made I think relates to the Will to believe; Schopenhauer, Kierkegaard, Maslow, William James and even Einstein to name a few talked about that so-called intrinsic nature or feature that we have called the Will. The connection there usually makes it way back to existential things like human instinct, sentience and intuition, or an innate sense of wonder.
So briefly, I would say in this context TMF, rather than your 'informed choice' you could replace it with logical inference. And more specifically, inference based upon unexplained phenomena from conscious existence (or from conscious human Beings ) if you prefer.
But yeah, The Will is an intriguing topic no doubt...and quite extensive to say the least. Does that interpretation clarify? — 3017amen
Miracles are evidence of a person's lack of understanding — ovdtogt
I would say so but there are types who consider the very comprehensibility of our world a miracle — TheMadFool
True. The creation of the Universe and Life are still miracles. — ovdtogt
Then the Big Bang is obviously a supernatural event. The same cannot be said for life though - it may have occurred on other planets at different times in the past - we do not know for sure. — Devans99
If past time is infinite and the Big Bang is a natural event then is seems an infinite number of big bangs must have occurred: — Devans99
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