Right, so you have no faith in the voters.
So clarify for me. — Brett
Voters are cynical. Why else vote into power a party that has a documented, total disregard for the truth since 2016? — Benkei
It is important not to forget that the master stroke of Johnson's advisors is to conflate Brexit with domestic issues and the threat of a socialist government. If we had had a second referendum on leaving the EU, we would have voted remain, this is widely known and is the reason why brexiters were vehemently against a second referendum. — Punshhh
What this and other recent and not-so-recent events show, I think, is that in times of stress people often act irrationally; self-destructive forces prevail, and when it comes to voting, people end up voting against their self-interest. In this, collectives act not unlike individuals: they lash out, become dysfunctional, and end up digging themselves even deeper. — SophistiCat
I don't think voters act irrational actually. We don't see it because we're to removed from them. — Benkei
You mean they don't see themselves acting irrationally. Of course. If they did, would they act that way? When I say that people act irrationally, that's my judgment, not theirs. (Actually, sometimes we do realize on some level that we are acting irrationally and self-destructively, but just can't help it. But most of the time the realization comes afterwards.) — SophistiCat
The problem with your argument is that you define what is 'rational' — Tim3003
You mean they don't see themselves acting irrationally. Of course. If they did, would they act that way? When I say that people act irrationally, that's my judgment, not theirs. (Actually, sometimes we do realize on some level that we are acting irrationally and self-destructively, but just can't help it. But most of the time the realization comes afterwards.) — SophistiCat
That's not a problem, that's a feature. Of course I define what is 'rational', as does everyone else. — SophistiCat
This is the main problem with the modern day socialists: they've forgotten their old supporters in the working class and too much focused on the "woke" people. As I'm no leftist, hopefully the new left continues to forget them later too.The working class prioritised and voted for Brexit, many for good reason, and now they've got it. That's totally fair. — Baden
Why?Boris can and probably will swing back to the center now and stuff the far right Brexiteers he no longer needs with a softer trade deal etc. — Baden
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