Again, no one in the Netherlands takes this seriously. — Tzeentch
Greta Thurnberg is the Joan of Arc of our time. Take a cause and put an innocent girl in the front as an emblem of the purity and righteousness of the cause. And why not: the Angevin dynasty had only emerged thanks to a lucky marriage while the nation states of France and England (UK) have shown historical persistence, so hooray for Joan. With climate change the righteousness of the cause is even more clear, even if the actual policies that would indeed help ought to be considered and debated.I'd say when we let children do the talking for us, we have definitely left the realm of rational thought. — Tzeentch
They have absolutely nothing to do with sea level rise. — Tzeentch
But then she is being used... — ChatteringMonkey
Clarity. Your point is well taken. There is a difference between the statement of the problem and possible solutions. But shooting the messenger does not serve clarity, rather the opposite. Why do that?what do you expect? — ChatteringMonkey
So, if I felt Greta's words deserved a hearty "fuck off" had they been spoken by an old shrew, she gets it too. — Hanover
But then she is being used... — ChatteringMonkey
Clarity. Your point is well taken. There is a difference between the statement of the problem and possible solutions. But shooting the messenger does not serve clarity, rather the opposite. Why do that? — tim wood
What evidence is there that Greta is being used? — ZzzoneiroCosm
No human being is an island. These ideas didn't magically pop into Greta's head from nowhere. She is influenced and continues to be under influence by other groups of people.
You think she acts wholly on her own without any support from other people? — ChatteringMonkey
But what about Greta's message is adversarial in nature, or should provoke obloquy? — tim wood
I'm asking you what evidence you can provide that Greta is being used. — ZzzoneiroCosm
Greta Thunberg is essentially akin to a fundamentalist, she only sees this one problem (that of climate change) and doesn't have the knowledge nor life-experience to be able to properly assess the complexity of the policy question.
The fact that someone has it right on the first question doesn't mean their opinion is worth anything on the second question. — ChatteringMonkey
Nope sorry, not interested in playing that game. — ChatteringMonkey
Providing evidence to support an assertion - that's a game to you? — ZzzoneiroCosm
Again, no one in the Netherlands takes this seriously. It plays no part in political discourse. If the sea level had been significantly rising, we'd be the first to notice. — Tzeentch
I'd say when we let children do the talking for us, we have definitely left the realm of rational thought. — Tzeentch
it really doesn't matter all that much to me if she is being 'used' or not. — ChatteringMonkey
You're fooling no one but yourself. — Tzeentch
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