Do you trust humans to give you an accurate model of the future? Extreme poverty is in decline, life expectancy has more than doubled since 1900. Is it really time to cower in some bunker? — NOS4A2
For the last three years life expectancy in the USA has declined, so something ain’t right. — praxis
In a healthier society (one less sickened by the depredations of capitalist predators like the Sackler family's opiate racket) we would live longer and/or happier lives. — Bitter Crank
My goodness, that is a strong criticism. — Athena
There is no contradiction in what I said. Also as far as I know I'm simply repeating the official line. — TheMadFool
I am old and as far as I am concerned if humans do not thrive, nothing matters. — Athena
I am alarmed by someone flagging this thread for not being philosophical. I am not sure how moderators here handle such conflicts of interest, between those who want to remain blind to reality and keep everything pleasant, and those who want to raise awareness of problems with the hope we will use knowledge to resolve problems. Science comes out of philosophy, let us hope those who love philosophy do not turn their backs on science. Doesn't philosophy mean a love of knowledge? Should we shut down threads that are knowledge of things we don't want to think about? — Athena
But you are attempting to undermine my position while not engaging. What's that about? — Punshhh
It's a symptom of the socio-cultural state of the nation. — Punshhh
Would we? And is it really that easy to pin the guilt on capitalist predators like the Sackler family? I think a healthy society could handle its predators. — praxis
Yes, I know it’s the party line. I’ve done the reading. As I said I just find it hard to accept a sentence or idea containing the words ‘truth’, ‘belief’ and ‘knowledge’. — Brett
Used how? — Brett
Was 3M corrupt in their initial intentions? — Brett
I'm not qualified to give a health check on the US. But I have a sense that things have gone a bit awry since the development of globalisation. I can understand why Lif3r wants to surround himself with guns in a country awash with guns.Is it a healthy symptom? In what way might you regard it as healthy and therefore constructive, not for you alone, to maintaining a functioning society?
Excuse me but I must disagree with you. Not only do I find little value in life without humans, but robots also demand finite resources. A problem with electric cars is the finite resources required for their batteries. But what if we are God's consciousness? Can that be transferred to a robot? I don't think so.
And our planet sure does not need robots to preserve life. But many ancient cultures thought it was man's purpose to help nature. Too bad we don't live with that belief today. — Athena
I'm not qualified to give a health check on the US. — Punshhh
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