I've demonstrated it several times quite clearly to you — Devans99
if there is no first cause, no effects are possible — Devans99
Then there is nothing — Devans99
I've considered it. It uses a complex variable for time. That is unlike any time I'm familiar with. So I do not think it reflects the universe we live in. — Devans99
You think you can peer into the nature of time. You think that proving to yourself that God exists means you have to convince us. Why don't you spend your day trying to communicate with "Him" through prayer and good works instead of starting threads on here? I don't get it — Gregory
looks (to me) like you want to show that you can't number all such moments non-indexically, but then you call it a day there, still no contradiction derived. :meh: — jorndoe
By the way, still treating ∞ as a number (integer in this case)...? — jorndoe
So there must be a first cause — Devans99
3. So by mathematic induction, there are no causes/effects at all — Devans99
But 3 is a non sequitur — jorndoe
Answer: embracing your God given sense of wonderment, and your Kantian intuition. — 3017amen
Please explain. — Devans99
You've shown that such causes don't have such (definite) numbers, that such causes aren't numbered so. (y) — jorndoe
TIme starts from the first motion of gravity — Gregory
You're position really is the Third Way. — Gregory
1. suppose there's no 1st cause
2. if there's no nth cause, then there's no n+1th cause
3. so, by induction such causes don't have such (definite) numbering — jorndoe
4. if they cannot be assigned a definite numbering, they cannot exist — Devans99
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