The ability to not bow to the demands of anything, opposing reason itself, which is invariably a great risk and may involve losing more than an arm or leg, your head perhaps, is freedom in full glory. — TheMadFool
We all have the ability to oppose reason, in a manner of speaking, but it seems less than clear to me that exercising that ability is glorious, though it may sometimes be spectacular. One can choose to act stupidly or unreasonably, certainly, and spectacularly so if circumstances permit. Perhaps that's the most those who are deliberately stupid or unreasonable may aspire to in this world. — Ciceronianus the White
However, freedom, to be real, requires the ability to reject i.e. negate all influences. I guess some might say I'm referring to radical/fanatical freedom. — TheMadFool
I don't think we derive glory, or infamy, from being in that condition — Ciceronianus the White
Even though there are rules of logic taught in academia, general human interpretation and application of negation has an aliveness to it, where it evolves and influences. — Mapping the Medium
The mind's ability to negate logic is like having the body having the ability to stop breathing and physiology says we can't do the latter. — TheMadFool
Maybe it had something to do with the ability to temporarily suspect automatic functions like breathing being like our ability to not simply react to things but to pause and consider our options before acting — Pfhorrest
Only in classical logic, thanks to the law of excluded middle. Not in intuitionistic logic. :cool:Anyway, this is one of the cool features of negation - allowing us to affirm by twice negating. — TheMadFool
Only in classical logic, thanks to the law of excluded middle. Not in intuitionistic logic. — aletheist
I would like to know a little about how members here interpret negation. — Mapping the Medium
I have no idea what Pierce meant by "negation". But there is an important distinction between NOT (contradiction) and NOT (absence), The latter is an existential qualifier : does not exist. In that sense, it is not just contradictory of the postulate, but destructive.I would like to know a little about how members here interpret negation. — Mapping the Medium
I have no idea what Pierce meant by "negation". But there is an important distinction between NOT (contradiction) and NOT (absence), The latter is an existential qualifier : does not exist. In that sense, it is not just contradictory of the postulate, but destructive.
"That's a negatory, Big Daddy" :smile: — Gnomon
Descartes introduced a "pragmatic" dualism in order to avoid a violent conflict between Science and Religion in his day. Monolithic Catholicism was fragmenting into rebellious Protestant sects, and Science was beginning to challenge the Church for revelation of Truth. By drawing an imaginary line between Fact and Faith (Non-Overlapping Magisteria), he hoped to avoid an all-out war that would likely snuff-out the tiny flame of Empirical Reason. Even his Deism may have been a pragmatic compromise between evidence and intuition.Since Descartes, science has taken a path of slicing and discarding (negation as rejection) that which is a contradiction, — Mapping the Medium
Both/And Principle : My coinage for the holistic principle of Complementarity, as illustrated in the Yin/Yang symbol. Opposing or contrasting concepts are always part of a greater whole. Conflicts between parts can be reconciled or harmonized by putting them into the context of a whole system.
http://blog-glossary.enformationism.info/page10.html — Gnomon
My BothAnd philosophy is also a pragmatic (non-ideal) solution to the current clash of values in the world, as exemplified by religious terrorists and angry atheists. It requires self-doubt and compromise in place of absolute Faith and Jihad/Crusade against infidels. The destructive Negation problem is due to Either/Or absolutism on both sides. — Gnomon
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