A metaphysician can necessarily only make metaphysical claims about the existence of God.
— praxis
Er, no. That's a metaphysical claim, and it is false. — Bartricks
Whether a god exists or not is a metaphysical question. — Bartricks
Yet you are confident that the empirical sciences do investigate questions such as whether a god exists. — Bartricks
If the existence of God is a metaphysical question then how can any claim about it be anything else but a metaphysical claim? If the claim were somehow supported by science. — praxis
I'm not aware of any such studies. I wrote that science can support or debunk metaphysical claims. Your reading comprehension could use more attention, my friend. — praxis
If the existence of God is a metaphysical question then how can any claim about it be anything else but a metaphysical claim? If the claim were somehow supported by science.
— praxis
I do not understand what you are saying. — Bartricks
A metaphysician can necessarily only make metaphysical claims about the existence of God. — Bartricks
Whether God exists or not is a metaphysical question. But it does not follow from that that everything that one might say about God's existence is metaphysical. — Bartricks
do you have any credentials in this area at all? — Bartricks
If true, you should be able to give an example. I won’t hold my breath. — praxis
do you have any credentials in this area at all? — Bartricks
No, and worse, I probably have below average intelligence. — praxis
Well, it doesn't follow from it being true that I should be able to give an example. But meh. As for an example, the claim "God's existence makes me feel lovely" is not metaphysical, yet it is about God's existence. — Bartricks
Remember you're trying to support the claim that metaphysicians are the authorities on the subject. This suggests otherwise. — praxis
if a metaphysician said that "the existence of God makes me feel lovely" then they have said something about God's existence that is not metaphysical. — Bartricks
Are they acting in the capacity of a metaphysical authority when they say such things? — praxis
So why don't you give a relevant example, being the expert that you are? — praxis
For it is a fact that purely metaphysical ideas—and therefore philosophical ideas—have been of the greatest importance for cosmology. From Thales to Einstein, from ancient atomism to Descartes’s speculation about matter, from the speculations of Gilbert and Newton and Leibniz and Boscovic about forces to those of Faraday and Einstein about fields of forces, metaphysical ideas have shown the way.
~ Karl Popper — Pantagruel
I wonder how many metaphysical ideas have been off the mark. I guess that's the beauty of being a metaphysician, no one really cares when a theory is wrong. — praxis
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