Personally I don’t like advertising. But should it be regarded as the lesser of the two because of its objectives. If it’s money’s that separates it from “art” then should a big price on a painting remove it from the field? — Brett
In my opinion, it's not necessarily money itself that defines commercial art but the intent or purpose with which it's created. — praxis
Is that what sets it apart from what we’re calling art? — Brett
It may not always be apparent how commercial artworks are, and marketers may deliberately attempt to deceive buyers in this regard.
Is that what sets it apart from what we’re calling art?
— Brett
I’m not saying that. I thought I made it clear in my previous post that I think commercial art is still art, — praxis
That’s the problem I have with Van Gogh, slavishly painting away day after day, the same thing over and over and over, like a moth at a window. What’s his intention, what does he expect? Seemingly nothing. That’s who he is, that’s his whole history.
What’s the point of all that compared to a Picasso who tears art apart, dissects it like a frog, then puts it back together again. He does that over and over and over. Van Gogh never did it once. — Brett
It seems they were both bound to their respective niches. — praxis
Say you are giving the Madonna a certain mysterious divine look that has never before been depicted while keeping strictly to the tenets of the genre. Couldn’t that be enough to qualify as something great and original?But if you’re working in a specific genre then by creating something original you’re breaking away from the tenets that define that genre. If you maintain the tenets of that genre then you’re not creating anything original. — Brett
Picasso didn’t have a niche. Which is why I respect him so much. He challenged himself each day. Most artists find a vein and work it. Very few did what Picasso did. It’s possible it may not be a good thing.
Van Gough was a flawed personality which resulted in his working in an intense but narrow confined way with a lot of repetition. This resulted in a body of work narrow in scope and variation. — Punshhh
If I gave an artist an entirely new motive: “Paint polar bears climbing palm trees.” And he makes such a painting. Which one of us is the artist? Me? No, he is of course. The artistic idea that matters is in the execution of the painting. — Congau
What about art semi-automatically generated by a neural network that in effect produces novel images with high artistic potential by interpolating the patterns that exist within large databases of artistic, natural and cultural images? Or that transfers the statistical qualities of an artist's style onto an arbitrary image to produce a novel 'painting' in that artist's style? — sime
When people say 'that is bad art', what are they saying is bad?
Or, what is it that defines bad art? — Invisibilis
Or, what is it that defines bad art? — Invisibilis
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