Do you think it is appropriate to accuse of 'psuedophilosophy' someone who has expressed and robustly defended views all of which are defended in the literature?
Their works are still art and they still require an audience to instill a particular emotion or thought. — Susu
All the examples you mentioned (Picazzos cubism, Marcel Duchamp, Fennings wake) are not exceptions. — Susu
By copy I mean a copy of another work of art. If I take a photo of a van Gogh painting, that photo is obviously not a work of art and I’m not an artist. If I try copy the van Gogh with a brush and paint and somehow manage to do it perfectly, that’s no more a work of art than the photo (although I’d be an excellent craftsman if I could do it.)Cannot an artwork which copies something still be good art. Most landscapes and portraits are copies — Invisibilis
Sure, unconventional skills are also skills and can produce good art. The only problem is that it is not easily recognized. How would I know that it is skillfully made if I have nothing to compare it to and don’t understand it. Whenever an artist uses unconventional skill, he in fact introduces a new genre of art. Until we have learned to understand this new genre, there’s no way to decide if the work is good or bad. I think some artists take advantage of that and make trash hoping to be recognized by an ignorant audience.Cannot an artwork be good art without conventional art skills, — Invisibilis
Relativist games. How does it work for you on the street, in a bar? — Brett
You can't think of any examples where lying is beneficial? — ZhouBoTong
Of course I can. But you’re just playing philosophy games. In this world you need to know when you’re being lied to, deceived and misinformed. Sure people lie, but I’m talking about a person who is a liar all the time, who deceives you then takes your watch.Trying living without that understanding and reality. Maybe you spend your days in your bedroom, I don’t know, but try living the way you imply with your dancing around words and sentences and see where it gets you. So let’s try and stick to the world outside your front door. — Brett
Sure, unconventional skills are also skills and can produce good art. The only problem is that it is not easily recognized. How would I know that it is skillfully made if I have nothing to compare it to and don’t understand it. Whenever an artist uses unconventional skill, he in fact introduces a new genre of art. Until we have learned to understand this new genre, there’s no way to decide if the work is good or bad. I think some artists take advantage of that and make trash hoping to be recognized by an ignorant audience. — Congau
as I suspected, they're not exceptions to the definition of art. — Susu
Yes, it presents you with what might be a good work of art and claims that a political position is good because it is associated with the good work of art. — Punshhh
Yes, I was very impressed with their performance, I was surprised the authorities tolerated it. — Punshhh
“Pleasing to the eye” can’t be a criterion for good art. Wallpaper may be pleasing to the eye or a Mercedes Benz for someone who likes expensive cars. Sure, artistic harmony may please the eye because of its connection to a higher idea, and it may be considered beautiful whenever there exists some unity and balance just like a mathematical equation may be considered beautiful for the same reason, but this kind of harmony is hardly pleasing to the eye in a literal sense.a good artist cannot help create images which contain eye pleasure. There is a natural flow of harmony that the eye picks up, and 'knows' that it came from not-trying, as if created unconditionally. — Invisibilis
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