Consciousness seems to be self interested — Pop
Improving oneself requires a letting go.
In this world however , you then fall prey to the action of others? — Pop
Consciousness is also a relation to present external stimulus and an intention towards the future. There is a creative element of nature, the individual, and the collective. — Noah Te Stroete
I think consciousness can defeat the problem of subgroup, competition, etc. It is why I'm interested in it.
The ultimate goal seems to be a letting go of everything.Then you are free, and united with all humanity? — Pop
This is a result of the format of forums. Unfortunately they work on disagreement and argument. This is not necessary, provided contributors agree to agree on things and work constructively together.So what seems to be happening in the forum is the reality of one consciousness conflicts with the reality of another consciousness.There is no getting over this impasse except for an individual to let go.
Yes, they might be, being enlightened does not change the need, or desire for debate. Also many cases of enlightenment as described in the religious accounts do not entail great intelligence or understanding, but rather an exhalted state. I have met gurus who are purported to be enlightened and they are no more intelligent than anyone else, though they do tend to be wise in some way.Only an enlightened person could do this, and would an enlightened person be on the forum at all?
Also I've come across the opinion / fact that whilst in the west, consciousness is a recent consideration, in India it was first considered 5000 years ago, that was the first time the subconscious was conceived!
several hundred years ago they conceived the collective consciousness - but also 3 levels lower. They also have identified the super conscious and a number of levels higher. So I'm doing some research on all this stuff. — Pop
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