Your classification is confusing. Besides, I'm not interested because you include beliefs. Beliefs are subjective. I'm interested in propositions. What do you call a person who neither claims nor denies that God exists? I don't see it on your list. But it's a very relevant concept since it was coined by Th. Huxley.
My classification is simpler:
They claim that God exists = theists
Non-theists:
Deny that God exists =atheists
Neither deny nor affirm= agnostics — David Mo
DingoJones
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↪Frank Apisa
Spelling and grammar are not measures of intelligence, they are measures of ones mastery of grammar and spelling. You are an endless bucket of stupid. And, since you have the memory of a goldfish to match the wit of a goldfish ill remind you: I dont kare if I misspel thinggs, it iss a litmmus test to detect pedantik moronz.
I could go back and correct my own posts to 100% correct grammar and spelling. The difference between us is that you are stuck stupid. Not because of your admittingly low levels of comprehension, but because of your grossly misplaced arrogance.
(Quick, point out that I should have typed “admittedly”. Lol, what a joke) — DingoJones
You are a fucking moron. — DingoJones
Atheists want to insist on a zero-sum dichotomy...either theist or atheist. — Frank Apisa
. ONLY atheists seem to think that there is no room for the distance between opinions on "There is a God" to "There are no gods." — Frank Apisa
Atheists want to insist on a zero-sum dichotomy...either theist or atheist. — Frank Apisa
god must be atheist
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↪Echarmion It's amazing how others can express what I say with using 1/4 the amount of words that I use. Congratulations. — god must be atheist
I disagree, the confusion is about the terms. Atheism is about belief, ones position on a specific belief, agnosticism is about knowledge, what one thinks about what can be known. That whats taught by the experts, if by experts you mean philosophical academia.
A person can be an atheist for a number of reasons, there are different kinds/forms of atheism. What they all have in common, what therefore is most definitive of atheism, is a lack of belief in god/gods. — DingoJones
god must be atheist
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I disagree, the confusion is about the terms. Atheism is about belief, ones position on a specific belief, agnosticism is about knowledge, what one thinks about what can be known. That whats taught by the experts, if by experts you mean philosophical academia.
A person can be an atheist for a number of reasons, there are different kinds/forms of atheism. What they all have in common, what therefore is most definitive of atheism, is a lack of belief in god/gods.
— DingoJones
Bingo, Dingo! — god must be atheist
Echarmion — Echarmion
Beliefs are subjective. I'm interested in propositions. — David Mo
What do you call a person who neither claims nor denies that God exists? I don't see it on your list — David Mo
What do you call a person who neither claims nor denies that God exists? I don't see it on your list
— David Mo
That would be a kind of soft atheist. Probably also at least a soft agnostic, maybe even a hard agnostic — Pfhorrest
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Abstention from judgement would be 2 but not 3. They're soft atheists. If they abstain from judgement from lack of knowledge, they're also agnostics. You can be both. — Pfhorrest
I don't think Anthony Kenny is a philosopher very representative of today's academic world. Anyway, his concept of agnosticism seems similar to the one I use: neither theism nor atheism, abstention. — David Mo
David Mo
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I want to talk about knowledge (of God). The only way to do so is through the propositions that enunciate it: I affirm or I deny. Or I abstain. Do you know an alternative to these three? I do not.
Your vocabulary has a serious problem: you don't know how to call a long list of philosophers who call themselves agnostics and defend abstention from judgment. Starting with the one who invented the term: Thomas Huxley. It's a serious flaw.. — David Mo
You were given explanations over and over again. Everything you're asking has been answered and in depth. Calling them rationalizations doesn't take away from this. There's no reason to ask others to rehash the explanations for you all over again. — x-ray vision
EVERYONE is an agnostic. — Frank Apisa
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