Did sin enter the world through Adam, Satan or Yahweh? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Why Eve at the end of Genesis 3 has to then be second class to Adam, --- he shall rule over you, --- would seem like Yahweh punishing the wrong party — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Adam and Even is just a metaphor in Christianity and not meant to be taken literally. — 3017amen
Genesis explains — frank
Did sin enter the world through Adam, Satan or Yahweh? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
you're struggling to reconcile something... , no? — 3017amen
From my own perspective, the secular discussion is the most interesting. — Hanover
Yet the vast majority of Christians have to be literalists, to some extent, to believe their dogma and religion. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I don't care about the latter as the homophobia and misogyny in Christianity today is from their not understanding Eden and sin. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
That is, the anti-homosexuality laws do not derive from Genesis, — Hanover
Yes, that being the answer to why Christians are so conflicted on Eden and cannot seem to decide if we fell or were elevated, yet the myth has been used by Christians to accentuate their homophobia and misogyny and refusal to grant all women and gays full legal status that they deserve. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
and it's not clear if you use the term Christian to include all denominations, including Mormons who have a a very distinct theology). — Hanover
so your claim that literalism is necessary for all Christians — Hanover
why the use of metaphor would be off limits — Hanover
I would strongly recommend you study same. — 3017amen
After all, in the 21st Century information age, shouldn't you be more sophisticated in your perspective on these things? — 3017amen
You not understanding, and trying to discourage the seeking of a better view for gays and women, and just let those continue, you are not much of a man. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
How often have you heard some a hole Christian say, god said Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve?
How often have you heard, he shall rule over you, when Christians are trying to justify their misogyny? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Modern scholarship in Christianity don't even take the Gospels at face value — Gregory
This isn't responsive to my claim that the biblical prohibition against homosexuality derives from Leviticus and not Genesis. — Hanover
All who believe in Jesus and or the Christ, have to read scriptures literally as that is the only place, basically, where anything is said of a Jesus.
— Gnostic Christian Bishop
Your stat is belied by other surveys that put belief in Jesus at about 70% and in hell which is even higher. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Bishop You're going to hell. — frank
Shame came upon them after they ate of the fruit but was that the shame of guilt? — Gregory
Eve may have seen the forked tongue of the snake and thought of the underside of Adam's penis and not wanting to be obedient to him but to possess him through knowledge of the tree, she went and ate. — Gregory
Were the first humans were truly vegetarians? — Gregory
with the male simply being more assertive (because of the fall?). — Gregory
Did they have relations in the garden and after they opened up to each other he became fearful of her femininity? — Gregory
So the story has a flaw in my opinion — Gregory
I'll pray for your immortal soul. — frank
Your poll relates to entirely different subject matter. — Hanover
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