Well, no, the number of distinct digital photos of a given resolution is finite. But so what? — SophistiCat
In other words, there is no actual infinity of discrete objects; but this does not rule out real continuity in the universe, such as that of time and space, which are not composed of distinct parts.The assumption that every aspect of the universe can be so pixeled assumes his conclusion. — jgill
You are not addressing the problem. What part of the universe you could not potentialy see on your monitor? You can either name what kind of object or information it is that your monitor can not visually convey, or you have to admit your monitor can convey any and every possible information. — Zelebg
You don't get it, you can zoom in as much as you wish in arbitrary small steps. — Zelebg
You can also forget photographs and imagine all the knowledge there is about everything that will ever be is simply written in English words, with illustrations and diagrams. — Zelebg
Wow! So there are an infinite number of pixels in each photo.
Can you explain that by describing a type of object or information that can not be visually represented on a computer monitor? — Zelebg
Therefore, the total number of unique bits of information is finite, or there is some kind of information your monitor can not display, for some reason. — Zelebg
Do you know what kind of properties a space would need to have so that every subset of it could be covered by a finite set of polygons? — fdrake
Such a square has infinitely many points, but it nevertheless has a finite pixellation. So an object having a finite pixellation doesn't prove that the object is finite.
Compactness? — jgill
Are your "polygons" abstract entities? — jgill
Topological spaces or what? — jgill
Compactness in TS if you adjoin limit points, I suppose. — jgill
What is TS? — fdrake
On every page there is a description of a single particle, where it is, what is doing at the given time. Collectively all that information describes everything that exists and will ever exist. — Zelebg
You are not addressing the problem. What part of the universe you could not potentialy see on your monitor? You can either name what kind of object or information it is that your monitor can not visually convey, or you have to admit your monitor can convey any and every possible information. — Zelebg
The question is whether this encyclopedia of everything has infinite number of pages or not. The answer is no, because there is no reason why your monitor could not display any of those pages, and the number of pages your monitor can display is finite. — Zelebg
If your monitor - or, say, any device or method for identifying distinct objects - can only register a limited number of objects, due to the way in which it is constructed, and you have registered that many objects, then all that you can say is that there exist at least that many distinct objects. This is the point that you fail to grasp.
Perhaps you will realize your mistake if you reduce the size of the page to the extreme (although a similar exercise with reducing the number of pixels on the monitor failed to convince you). If you only have one character on the page, and there are, say, 100 letters, digits and other signs that you can depict with one character, does this mean that there cannot be more than 100 distinct entities in the world?
You demand to know why a device like a monitor, camera or book can only store a limited amount of information. Did you already forget that this was the very premise of your stupid argument?
Imagine an empty digital photo, say 800x600 pixels. You could take a camera and potentially go to every single point in the universe and take as many photos from any point in any direction, even using a telescope and microscope, and infrared, ultraviolet, any filter you like… and you can also add to that every frame of every movie ever made, and every page of every book that was written, that will be written, and even those pages that will never be written… also add to that illustrations of every thought and dream, and every scene every man has seen and will ever see....
That single empty photo potentially contains all there is, was, and all that will ever be, and more, even things that can not and will never be. Yet the number of all those possible photos is not infinite. Therefore, if the universe / space is infinite, it can only be due to repetition since the number of unique things that can exist is apparently finite. — Zelebg
Ugh, why do I even waste my time on this... — SophistiCat
On every page there is a description of a single particle, where it is, what is doing at the given time. — Zelebg
Therefore, if the universe / space is infinite, it can only be due to repetition since the number of unique things that can exist is apparently finite. — Zelebg
Simple proof that your theory is false:
can my monitor represent information about every possible object or can it not. — Zelebg
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