It is stated especially in the Westminster confession that some people are by God predestined to be saved while others not.However i have come up across some precepts that are mandatory for salvation in Calvinism like true faith repentance etc.Of course that is contrasted greatly to the dogma of predestination.Is my syllogism right or am i missing something contained in the calvinsit dogma(to whcih my knowledge is restricted i must add) — rhudehssolf
But here's the thing: if it's real it doesn't make sense, and if it isn't real, then it isn't real. Attempting to reason about either the unreasonable or the unreal can be hazardous to your health. — tim wood
If any philosophy is BS, then it is all BS. But BS is BS, philosophy is philosophy. Some people - well, even some people here on TPF - can't tell the difference.lol. Why is that Tim Wood? A lot of philosophy is B.S. — christian2017
If any philosophy is BS, then it is all BS. But BS is BS, philosophy is philosophy. Some people - well, even some people here on TPF - can't tell the difference.
I think of philosophy in the broadest sense as organized thinking about the organized thinking about a determinate subject matter. That cannot be BS, though it can be badly done. Organized thinking is just another way of saying Science - again in the broadest terms. Though it may be possible to try to think in an organized - scientific - way about religion, that effort is doomed to failure as religion is not a science or susceptible to scientific thinking.
Theology, depending on how that's defined, may be a proper subject for a philosophy of theology. — tim wood
Wikipedia has a pretty good article on Calvinism that addresses this, including an explanation of the acronym TULIP that is often used to summarize it:It is stated especially in the Westminster confession that some people are by God predestined to be saved while others not.However i have come up across some precepts that are mandatory for salvation in Calvinism like true faith repentance etc. — rhudehssolf
Extremely oversimplified, but that is the gist.St. Augustine wrote about predestination. Following Augustine, Luther adopted the idea, and Calvin followed Luther. (At least, that's the way I understand the doctrine came about.) — Bitter Crank
Not to Calvinists, who still maintain it: God grants faith only to those whom He has predestined to be saved, but there is no way to know in this life who is and is not in that category. God is 100% responsible for both salvation and damnation.It apparently was the case that the idea of God decreeing who would be saved and who would be damned for all time, was unacceptable. — Bitter Crank
That is a rough description of the Roman Catholic and Arminian approaches: God in His foreknowledge predestines those who will freely choose to believe. God and the human share responsibility for salvation, while the human is 100% responsible for damnation.So, God grants grace to those who desire to be saved so that they can fulfill the demands of faith. — Bitter Crank
It's a question for a theology forum, not a philosophy forum. — Wayfarer
Topics which start with an appeal to dogmatic theology belong in a theology forum. Philosophy of religion is a different matter but this ain’t that. — Wayfarer
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