Even a parasitic worm can at times help it's host in one way or another, but that doesn't mean it isn't a parasite because it does so. Corporations are created to increase the wealth of their owners regardless of whether or not they are doing it for the "common good". Both capitalism and socialist propaganda talk about the virtues of their ideologies and the "evils" of other ideology (if you ever been in debates about Ayn Rand's philosophies and other topics you might be aware of such arguments), but all ideologies at the end of the day are merely a ideology and none of them are really so great that they solve ALL problems better than all other ideology just as if your only tool is a hammer everything will look like a nail to you.Your point may have been well-taken if I had been speaking about the origin of corporations and their dependence on humans for that. My point was concerned with the current co-dependence between corporations and the common good (or at least what is generally seen by our society and its individuals to be the common good; i.e modern medicine, comprehensive health care, social welfare, the benefits of technology, comfort, convenience etc, etc, the financing of all of which are dependent on our present growth economy, and will continue to be so unless the population begins to diminish instead of growing). — Janus
The Netherlands is not one of them. I've decided to keep my kids home and I'm working from home. — Benkei
And don't forget Trump's first response, it's the new hoax of the Democrats! America has tackled the coronavirus! — ssu
Why are many Trump haters so gullible? — Nobeernolife
Hence this has nothing to do with the corona-virus. Which is quite typical. Because that's what I get from Trump's response too. — ssu
The open borders with hordes in unchecked crossers have everything to do with the Corona virus. Get real. — Nobeernolife
Every Western government actively pursues growth. When environment and growth conflict, they will pursue growth. The concepts of wealth in its broadest sense and growth still haven't been integrated to make sensible policies — Benkei
You're absolutely right. China opening their borders and allowing American citizens in to catch the disease and then fly back home is the root cause. I guess we should have shut down all travel years ago. — Michael
The same reason many Trump supporters are so gullible. Because many people are gullible. — Michael
Misguided attempt at sarcasm. Why do you think China restricts travel from Wuhan province? Why do we have the concept of quarantene at all?
Crickets... — Nobeernolife
I assume there are tunnel-visioned Trump fans out there too, but I don´t really see many glaring example of parrotting blatant false talking points — Nobeernolife
So, why didn't Trump close the borders 2 weeks ago? — Echarmion
t was never the point I was making and any case worse policy abroad doesn't excuse our own bad policy. It's kind of exclaiming that dying from corona isn't so bad because you could be dying much more painfully from ebola. — Benkei
Because he is not perfect and does not have divine foresight? Like everybody else, apparently? Do you apply strict criteria to your preferred politician, whoever that is? — Nobeernolife
So you think he made a mistake there? Everyone makes mistakes, right? — Echarmion
I do not know if he made a "mistake", and neither do you. He re-assured the public, appointed a Corona zar to coordinate the response, and ordered travel restrictions, all of which looks reasonab le to me. If better actions were possible, maybe, probably. But I do not automatically switch to "orangeman baaaad!!" mode like so many. (I.e. the CNN consumers) — Nobeernolife
I don´t really see many glaring example of parrotting blatant false talking points, like yours about Trump supposedly calling the virus a hoax. — Nobeernolife
Now you got me totally confused? What are you implying here?I only said that healthcare systems vary from state to state, so treating it like a military or federal problem is misguided at best, disastrous at worse. With such a large scale problem federal agencies risk becoming too thin. They might as well use the infrastructure and systems already in place. — NOS4A2
Because you utterly fail to understand the need for a concentrated effort that is simply necessitated by practical reasons here and is in no way a plot to undermine individual liberty or state/communal independence.This is the second time you’ve brought up Japanese invasion in a thread about a pandemic. — NOS4A2
That's a bit harsh.Cynical me: The silver lining is that people at Trump rallies have a higher chance of getting the disease and dying. — Benkei
A Brazilian official President Donald Trump met with over the weekend has tested positive for the coronavirus, but Trump said Thursday he's "not concerned" about their interaction.
Fabio Wajngarten, press secretary for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, posed for a picture with Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and Bolsonaro at Trump's Florida resort over the weekend that he posted on Instagram. The press office at Brazil's presidential palace confirmed to NBC News Thursday that Wajngarten had tested positive for the coronavirus.
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