That may be why Christians sing that Adam’s sin was a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Thoughts? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
If it is the case that there are alternative ways to listen to accepted understandings of text read by many people, shouldn't you be starting there? — Valentinus
The god in the story was an idiot invented by an idiot. — Frank Apisa
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The god in the story was an idiot invented by an idiot.
— Frank Apisa
Actually, the reverse is true if you reverse the Christian take of a fall to the original Jewish view of Eden being where man was elevated.
The idiot label belongs to the Christians who reversed the moral of the story. The Jewish version is quite good and elevating to the ego instead of tearing it down the way Christianity did. All while even more stupidly saying that Adam furthered god's plan. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
To then co-exist as a God, rather than a member, IS evil. — xyzmix
Explain to me (to us) the difference as you see it. — Frank Apisa
I've got a couple of Hebrew Bibles...and they have the same story as the Christian Bibles. — Frank Apisa
Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught and that Gnostic Christians have embraced. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Yahweh thus murdered A & E unjustly. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
If it is the case that there are alternative ways to listen to accepted understandings of text read by many people, shouldn't you be starting there? — Valentinus
But...that's just me, a non-Christian...and the 2.5 billion Christians who happen to think that interpretation works best. — Frank Apisa
I see it as a fable...and the only "moral" conclusion I see drawn is of failure on the part of the humans to the will of the god. — Frank Apisa
Of course, the mythology includes some need for villains...so I understand what you are attempting to portray. — Frank Apisa
You do feel that same way about Judas, right? — Frank Apisa
I think science has done more to overcome evil than religion. — Athena
That assumes no other justification. — Hanover
To believe in a God who loves you in the Christian sense is to be a narcissist who wants everyone to be a narcissist.
Why would you not want to be infinite and perfect? — Gregory
I don't even understand how Adam's act of eating from the tree of good and evil was evil if he didn't know what evil even was until he ate the apple. — Hanover
That assumes no other justification. — Hanover
Biblical terminology can be useful when we think abstractly and harmful when we think concretely and start hunting witches. — Athena
"The word" is English for logos, reason, the controlling force of the universe made manifest in the speech. — Athena
It's a Pandora's Box tale. — Marchesk
I do not see any evil in nature. To be evil, nature would need to show intent to harm. Nature only shows that it supports all life and does not care who the winners or losers are. It cannot as it is not sentient. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
We default to cooperation which gives good results all around and only do evil to the losers of competitions when we choose to compete. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Religions just screw up on the definition of sin. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Be we created by a god or nature, we are all doing exactly what we were created to do. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
That view explains why Jesus saw heaven right here and right now at all points in time. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Few, as he indicated, have the mentality to see it. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
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