Abraham is a prophet of Islam, so why would Allah hate the followers of the god of Abraham? He would have to hate his own followers — Alvin Capello

That was my question to the people who claim that the Yaweh = Allah. Obviously, if that is the case, he is schiizophrenic.

The term ‘People of the Book’ in the Koran refers to Muslims, Christians, and Jews.

The term ‘People of the Book’ in the Koran refers to Muslims, Christians, and Jews. — Alvin Capello

No it does not. It refers to Christians and Jews.

The term ‘People of the Book’ in the Koran refers to Muslims, Christians, and Jews. — Alvin Capello

If you claim it refers to muslims, then Allah is hating his own followers, which means taking the insanity to a whole new level, LOL

I’m actually claiming that about you. Abraham is a prophet of Islam. Therefore, Allah is the god of abraham.

Allah does not instruct his followers to hate the followers of the god of abraham. In fact, there are numerous verses where he says the opposite.

The verses about killing infidels mainly refer to the arabic polytheists of the time.

I’m actually claiming that about you. Abraham is a prophet of Islam. Therefore, Allah is the god of abraham. — Alvin Capello

I know that is the claim. Are you new to this thread? What I am saying is that that claim implies that Allah is schizophrenic,

Allah does not instruct his followers to hate the followers of the god of abraham. In fact, there are numerous verses where he says the opposite. — Alvin Capello

Nope. The Koran is full of verses hating the "people of the book".

The verses about killing infidels mainly refer to the arabic polytheists of the time. — Alvin Capello

Polytheists are also mentioned, separately from the "people of the book". They are not the same.

What is important or what is true? In an extremely short time, say between Bacon and the present, we have we overcome the evils that took our children and kept our live expectancy down to less than 45 years and kept our economies in extreme poverty and ignorance. — Athena

What is important for a person can be what is true. The culture wars are wrapped around that connection. Being a progressive is about embracing a better way to do things and developing a more just society. It also is about the connection between the personal and the political that is a the heart of the different iterations of "Christianity."

One of the interesting elements of Elaine Pagels' book about the Gnostic Gospels is that the demand for inclusion by the church was not just about all the bad things it produced. A vision of the universal seems to be a terrible thing in many ways. But sorting out what should be embraced or rejected on that basis is exactly what the connection between the personal and the political needs to struggle with.

Seems to me that you have two choices here:

Quote a passage...and give a citation.

Or acknowledge that you cannot.

So you don´t. I call BS on that, unless you can provide a reference.

Can you try to stick to things you know instead of spouting conspiracy theories? — Nobeernolife

Allow me to take this opportunity to agree with you on this.

Haven't read any of this thread so far, but when I see it I keep thinking: Trying to be more godlike is a good thing, if by a god you mean someone all knowing, all powerful, and all good. Trying to learn more, be more able, and be a better person is good. You can't ever achieve all-knowing or all-powerful, but you can an principle get arbitrarily close eventually, and you could in principle (but probably not in practice) become all-good, including being both inerrant (never doing wrong) and at least emotionally invulnerable (never being wronged, by attaining ataraxia, or nirvana, so nothing ever hurts you).

So you don´t. I call BS on that, unless you can provide a reference. — Nobeernolife

If you are too stupid to do your own research-----

Regards
DL

They are called "the people of the book" in the Koran, which is chock-full of hatred of them. You are seriously unaware of that? — Nobeernolife

Too dumb for words, especially after you wrote the following you stupid dumb ass.

"So you don´t. I call BS on that, unless you can provide a reference."

I have your double standard now you pathetic hypocrite.

Regards
DL

have read every major report since the 1901 Hemp report. That would include what those in the industry call their Bible, The LeDain Royal Commission On Cannabis. Its's findings are also available in the LeDain Royal Commission Report on Psychotropic drugs that is also the benchmark of the drug research industry.

They belie your statement. Get any peer reviewed repot or retract your lie.

You should know by now that I say nothing I cannot back up. You should be so honest.

Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop

You've never backed up anything you've said ever to any considerable degree.

Regards

What about abortion and people like Stalin. Hitler was more of the Occult than a christian. Then you have all the pagan religions over the thousands of years. I do admit that christian nations are more efficient at killing than nations from 2000 years ago (technology unfortunately). Are you familiar with the Hindu Caste system in India.

Why do you say abortion isn't murder?

That movie you sent me isn't worth reading. Do you have an article for me to read on the same topic? Movies are meant to play with people emotions. Life isn't simple.

I feel you back your arguments badly. You feel the same about mine.

I prefer articles over movies, so if you send me a movie i put watching that movie on a backlog.

If you are too stupid to do your own research----- — Gnostic Christian Bishop

I looked for your the claim that the pope funded death camps, and I could not find any reference. Please give a hint what "research" I should do to find that.

Too dumb for words, especially after you wrote the following you stupid dumb ass.
"So you don´t. I call BS on that, unless you can provide a reference."
I have your double standard now you pathetic hypocrite. — Gnostic Christian Bishop

I am not sure what your name-calling is supposed to mean. I told you that your assumption that phrase "people of the book" in the Koran refers to muslims is wrong. Which can verify very easily.

Instead of saying "thanks, I was wrong", you type vulgarities at me. Why?

Luke 19:27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me. — Gnostic Christian Bishop

I looked this one up, and apparently it is a FABLE told by Jesus. It is NOT a call by Jesus/God to hate and fight the Jews/Muslims/Hindus etc.

So it does not support your claim that the Allah is comparable to Yahwe. Do you have another passage, or do you admit you were wrong?

Hindu Caste system in India. — christian2017

Yes. It is immoral.

Regards
DL

Why do you say abortion isn't murder? — christian2017

Check the dictionary definitions of both terms and stop misusing them.

Regards
DL

I looked for your the claim that the pope funded death camps, — Nobeernolife

https://www.google.ca/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01cRuLSCZaWSH9MMYr1Z3E5KESRvA%3A1584976587991&source=hp&ei=y9J4Xpu-OdSztQbE04CgDw&q=Vatican+bank+hitler&oq=Vatican+bank+hitler&gs_l=psy-ab.3...999.12437..13438...2.0..0.145.2191.3j16......0....1..gws-wiz.......0j35i39j0i131j0i22i30j33i21.kIYgjEeQLhA&ved=0ahUKEwjbz4H08bDoAhXUWc0KHcQpAPQQ4dUDCAc&uact=5

Regards
DL

https://www.google.ca/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01cRuLSCZaWSH9MMYr1Z3E5KESRvA%3A1584976587991&source=hp&ei=y9J4Xpu-OdSztQbE04CgDw&q=Vatican+bank+hitler&oq=Vatican+bank+hitler&gs_l=psy-ab.3...999.12437..13438...2.0..0.145.2191.3j16......0....1..gws-wiz.......0j35i39j0i131j0i22i30j33i21.kIYgjEeQLhA&ved=0ahUKEwjbz4H08bDoAhXUWc0KHcQpAPQQ4dUDCAc&uact=5 — Gnostic Christian Bishop

That link leads to an article about Nazi gold allegedly stored in sevaral overseas banks, including the Vatican bank. OK, I agree it is possible there is some hidden dirt there.
However, your claim was that "the Vatican financed death camps". So I assume that claim was wild hyperbole?

https://adarapress.com/2015/05/15/roman-catholic-priests-ran-half-the-concentration-camps-in-croatia/

Care to make an ass of yourself again.

That is the last time I do ypour research for you. Lazy is as lazy does.

You are not worth my time.

Regards
DL

Why do you say abortion isn't murder?
— christian2017

Check the dictionary definitions of both terms and stop misusing them.

Regards — Gnostic Christian Bishop

Abortion is murder you sinner. I'm also a sinner. You check the definitions. Life is complex and sometimes we have to think slightly abstract (slightly abstract).

You called me a drunkard earlier. Were both wrong doers so i called you the other name for wrong doer (sinner).

regards,

not DL (whatever dl means assuming its a name)

Not at hand but the Jesuits were implicated as well as a section of the Vatican whose label I have forgotten that are charged with pushing the Vatican's ideology.

They have changed the name of that branch of late but it is still alive and well. — Gnostic Christian Bishop

The name of the department you are looking for is Congregatio pro Doctrina Fidei (Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.)

Now that you know it...provide the evidence for you absurd claim.

https://adarapress.com/2015/05/15/roman-catholic-priests-ran-half-the-concentration-camps-in-croatia/
Care to make an ass of yourself again.
That is the last time I do ypour research for you. Lazy is as lazy does. — Gnostic Christian Bishop

OK. That is an interesting article. Not sure how accurate the source (which seems very nationalistic Serbian), but it certainly sounds like there is some dirt there.
But the article is about Catholic priests running death camps in Croatia.

Your claim that was that "The Vatica financed the Nazi death camps". I still see no evidence for that.

If you were talking about Catholic priests and Croatia, why didn`t you say that?

Now that you know it...provide the evidence for you absurd claim. — Frank Apisa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_clergy_involvement_with_the_Ustaše

Apologies to all. It was not Jesuit priests as I had stated above who ran the death camps. It was the Franciscans.

"During World War II, nearly half of the 22 NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS operating in the Nazi allied state of CROATIA were under the command of ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS."

https://adarapress.com/2015/05/15/roman-catholic-priests-ran-half-the-concentration-camps-in-croatia/

Regards
DL

If you were talking about Catholic priests and Croatia, why didn`t you say that? — Nobeernolife

If I curse a pedophile protecting pope, or a death camp promoter and accomplish, does it matter which one of the many I name when speaking in general terms?

We are in a chat room. Not a court of law.

Regards
DL

If I curse a pedophile protecting pope, or a death camp promoter and accomplish, does it matter which one of the many I name when speaking in general terms?

We are in a chat room. Not a court of law.

Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop

good point the roman papacy does suck.