Not really. As long as we wish to continue with this admittedly profoundly offensive game analogy, the rules of victory can be defined however we wish, meaning we can agree to look at data on any decided upon date, perhaps when there is a declaration the pandemic has ended. It also stands to reason that the initial error rates in assigning causes of death by nation should be roughly the same, but, of course, maybe not.You have to have quite a long memory for this "games" to be played out, because the actual death toll will likely be only known much later as people do extensive study just who died of the corona-viirus — ssu
Even if one believes the US response under Trump is inept, the response I'd think should be sympathetic as opposed to ridiculing — Hanover
Thanks to Trump, the USA seems to be winning the corona Olympics. Now in third place.
No harm no foul. He was just being optimistic. — Benkei
OK snowflake. Or instead you can take that comment in the context that it was made, with fellow Trumpanzees defending the orange-oetan's ineptitude with "typical optimism" and accusing others of "politising" and creating "hoaxes". Where's your outrage at those games, huh? — Benkei
Ever considered that is not only not an argument, but also counterproductive? — Nobeernolife
This coming from you of all people. — praxis
So it turns out the Spanish Flu didn't actually originate in Spain. Top contenders are France, Britain, China, and the United States. It's only known as the Spanish Flu because France, Britain, and the United States were suppressing news about it due to WWI, and so all the news came from Spain. — Michael
Yeah, I have been talking about TDS, which I see as real medical situation. (Scott Adams says the same.) That is not meant as name-calling, but I can see that some take it as such. — Nobeernolife
Yeah, I have been talking about TDS, which I see as real medical situation. (Scott Adams says the same.) — Nobeernolife
But it is not a real medical situation and you know it. And who cares what Scott Adams says? Is he your authority? — Monitor
Err, no, that was not was I am saying. Don´t fall into Cathy Newman mode here...How helpful and convenient that anyone who has a different point of view is rendered unable to think on your level because they are sick. — Monitor
So you and a cartoonist making a medical diagnosis. Is this somehow productive? — praxis
How helpful and convenient that anyone who has a different point of view is rendered unable to think on your level because they are sick.
— Monitor
Err, no, that was not was I am saying. Don´t fall into Cathy Newman mode here... — Nobeernolife
The entire point of TDS is an attempt to invalidate opposing views. Even you must realize this on some level. — praxis
Well, Adams is also a trained hypnotist and looks at the human situation from that point. — Nobeernolife
Anyway, I did agree that TDS can be misunderstood as personal name-calling, But surely you agree that it is not on the same level as "Trumpanzees" or "Orange-Otan". — Nobeernolife
OK snowflake. Or instead you can take that comment in the context that it was made, with fellow Trumpanzees defending the orange-oetan's ineptitude with "typical optimism" and accusing others of "politising" and creating "hoaxes". Where's your outrage at those games, huh? — Benkei
You were politely asked to present an argument showing how it’s productive to use this term. — praxis
And, if you want to play feelings police, why aren't you criticizing Trump and his followers for making light of the situation before? Shouldn't you at least preamble your criticism of ↪Benkei with "Yes, Trump and a lot of his followers weren't really sympathetic to the idea this pandemic is a problem nor with the people who died 'due to something no worse than the flu', and ridiculing people on the left who were concerned about it, and not simply in the form of words, but taking actions designed to spread the disease faster in order to virtue signal their lack of sympathy for those that disagreed with Trump's message it was a hoax and will go away or is in any case no worse than the flu and plenty of people work through it and get better; and so not only hurt feelings but have and will cause many deaths", then, having recognized this and the hypocrisy of Trump and his followers having "hurt feelings" now with regard to criticism of Trump's inept handling of the crisis (assuming it's inept as you say), go on to make your point that analogies should be carefully selected to not hurt anyone's feelings, and not just actual people with hurt feelings about the analogy but also people who aren't themselves really hurt by it, but can understand the point being made, but nevertheless could imagine someone else, who isn't here, who could maybe be hurt by it, if they were here. — boethius
You're asking me this because you are at a loss of examples of countries who are managing the disease well? What did Japan do? Or South Korea? — Benkei
You were politely asked to present an argument showing how it’s productive to use this term.
— praxis
It is descriptive, not productive. — Nobeernolife
Whether I'm hypocrite or snowflake notwithstanding, the point is that there is a consistent disdain for Trump that goes beyond rationality, — Hanover
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