That's true if you have comprehensive testing and tracing in place. If a state waits until they're treating sick people to get serious, they're already up to two weeks behind the virus spread and with no knowledge of where exactly it is. — Andrew M
Take your BS to the Trump thread like I said. — Baden
I agree. That's pretty much what we're doing. — frank
Schools just closed because it just got here — frank
I don't think you two are as far away from each other as you think. The phrase "herd immunity" has different connotations, some political, some medical. — Baden
People developing immunity through getting the disease is how you maximize the chance vulnerable people will also get it
— boethius
Sorry man, I can't deal with you. You make no sense. — frank
I’m an epidemiologist. When I heard about Britain’s ‘herd immunity’ coronavirus plan, I thought it was satire — William Hanage, epidemiologist
Herd immunity from getting the disease happens in 2 parts:
1. People getting the disease and their immune system learning to deal with it and becoming immune.
2. People getting the disease and dying from it and no longer being part of the herd.
There is no way to have 1 without 2. This is why an epidemiologists thought this idea was satire when he first heard about it. — boethius
I think you can, and I think that is what the countries who follow this approach are trying achieve. If there are enough immune people in the herd, the virus will not find enough new targets to spread and fizzle out by itself. The problem is that to keep those who would die from the virus (the sick and elderly) separated, while the virus burns through the herd. — Nobeernolife
Man dies after self-medicating with chloroquine
Be careful. — Michael
No, you're just engaging in fantasy science.
If people are getting the disease they can transmit it to vulnerable people while they have the disease. — boethius
I hate to be repeating myself, but what I described is PRECISELY the approach that every virologist who wants to achieve herd immunity prescribes. — Nobeernolife
But, to the position that my criticism of others would have been better received had I acknowledged my hypocrisy and then recited a long long winded self excoriation, I'd just ask that you pretend that happened. — Hanover
Now that we're working under the assumption I followed your directions, will you now acknowledge that my post was fully correct in substance, or were your above comments just an irrelevant chastisement? My guess is that it's the latter. — Hanover
I think overestimate how easy it is to introduce "comprehensive testing and tracing". Especially if you are in a free society and not in Communist China. — Nobeernolife
Afaik, there is no European county that has duplicated the very fast and radical reactions of the governments of Taiwan, Korean, and Singapore. (And mainland China of course, but their reaction came after 2 months of denial, suppression of news, and outright lies). — Nobeernolife
Sorry again, but that guy really has no authority to speak on such matters. — NOS4A2
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