Mohomad was a sexual predator and i have muslim holy books that back this up. As you said above he was also a historical war lord. The Koran encourages muslim crusades.
— christian2017
Err.... that would be Crescendates, not Crusades. But I would simply stick with Jihad, which actually is an ongoing effort in islamic doctrine, not a rare and unique event like the crusades. — Nobeernolife
thats fair. — christian2017
thats fair.
— christian2017
By the way, you do realize why the cross is so offensive to islam? The reason is that the Koran says Jesus was NOT crucified (sura 4-157), so claiming he was means blasphemy. So, no display of crosses, where islam is taken seriously.
(Again, now consider this is the same god as the Christian one.... err, never mind, don´t want to belabour the point again) — Nobeernolife
i wasn't aware of that detail, but i am aware of other things in the Koran. I own a copy and it is mostly a trite and shallow book, atleast the parts i read. — christian2017
In what universe does that make sense? — Nobeernolife
could go either way — christian2017
I guess every god has its little faults and idiosyncrasies — Frank Apisa
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I guess every god has its little faults and idiosyncrasies
— Frank Apisa
Be and let be is my only decree. — Eleonora
i wasn't aware of that detail, but i am aware of other things in the Koran. I own a copy and it is mostly a trite and shallow book, atleast the parts i read.
— christian2017
You need a bit of background information to see how truly dangerous and deceptive it is. For example, are you aware of the arrangement of the verses, the difference between the Mekka and Medina verses and the concept of abrogation (Naskh)? If not, reading the thing is just exercise in confusion. — Nobeernolife
In what universe does that make sense?
— Nobeernolife
could go either way
— christian2017
It makes sense if Allah drunk the beer first after he passed down the Quran. — Eleonora
I'll google that or attempt to google what you are getting at. I was aware that they venerate both Mecca and Medina. — christian2017
In what universe does that make sense?
— Nobeernolife
could go either way
— christian2017
It makes sense if Allah drunk the beer first after he passed down the Quran. — Eleonora
I'll google that or attempt to google what you are getting at. I was aware that they venerate both Mecca and Medina.
— christian2017
Do you want to dive into that rabbit hole? Fundamentally, the Mekka verses (written in Mekka, where Mohammud was weak) are tolerant and peaceful, and the Medina verses (written in Medina, where Mohammud became an ever more brutal ruler) are intolerant and violent. In the Koran they are all mixed together, but the (later) Medina verses override the (earlier) Mekka verses. So muslim propagandists can quote wonderfully tolerant verses, knowing that they are invalidated by later Medina verses. Brilliant, isn´t it?
I could go on for pages..... if you take the red pill, you will discover more than you imagine. — Nobeernolife
I am not a bible-thumper, but is the Old Testament not fundamentally the violent, war-like god of the Jews, and the New Testament the pacifist god of Jesus? Now reverse that and say that the OT overrides the NT. And yeah, mix the whole thing together and order chapters not chronologically but according to length. Then you get something more like the Koran.People like to associate that sort of thing with Christianity but i would like them to find one contradiction in the whole Bible and i'll debate that with them. — christian2017
Before you do that, you should find a source and check the chronological order of the Suras. Otherwise, the whole thing makes absolutely zero sense.It wouldn't surprise me. Perhaps i'll read more of my Koran today. — christian2017
People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?
The real Original Sin, then and today, to most Christians, is based on this quote.
“For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil" (Gen. 3:5).
Jesus seems to have wanted this to happen, as that would make us his brethren.
Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught and that Gnostic Christians have embraced.
Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded
If Jesus wants us to know of good and evil, as a prerequisite to being born again as his brethren, it goes well with Jesus’ prediction as quoted above.
That may be why Christians sing that Adam’s sin was a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan.
I am not a literal reader of this myth, but this seems to make sense. It follows then that it makes sense for Adam to ignore Yahweh’s command not to gain an education.
Thoughts?
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
People like to associate that sort of thing with Christianity but i would like them to find one contradiction in the whole Bible and i'll debate that with them.
— christian2017
I am not a bible-thumper, but is the Old Testament not fundamentally the violent, war-like god of the Jews, and the New Testament the pacifist god of Jesus? Now reverse that and say that the OT overrides the NT. And yeah, mix the whole thing together and order chapters not chronologically but according to length. Then you get something more like the Koran.
It wouldn't surprise me. Perhaps i'll read more of my Koran today.
— christian2017
Before you do that, you should find a source and check the chronological order of the Suras. Otherwise, the whole thing makes absolutely zero sense. — Nobeernolife
His disciple, by the only definition we can know. That's the entirety of what Christianity is about to me. — Eleonora
Look at what happened in Germany and Japan, and ancient China or the Aztecs. — Athena
Joshua didn't commit genocide because there were still plenty of Amorites in ancient Iraq. I could go on and on about this but i'll get to it later. — christian2017
i asked you earlier about the subject of temple prostitiution but you didn't answer — christian2017
You said you like a challenge many times. Can you answer these questions. — christian2017
Are you aware that mohomad was a sexual predator and that in many modern predominantly muslim nations, pedophilia is legal? — christian2017
You want to serve, when Jesus said he came to serve — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Being a disciple of Jesus is nor about doing, nor either about being anything other than loving - no more than believing inconclusively is it. — Eleonora
modern hinduism — christian2017
You have not read your bible. Armageddon ring a bell? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Joshua didn't commit genocide because there were still plenty of Amorites in ancient Iraq. I could go on and on about this but i'll get to it later.
— christian2017
You would also not see Hitler as using genocide either --- because their were still many Jews around.
Go give your head a shake.
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
You said you like a challenge many times. Can you answer these questions.
— christian2017
Yes, but to what end?
You are trying to justify your god killing when he could just as easily cure.
You sure have a satanic view o9f Jesus.
He said he came t9o cure and not to kill.
Why are you adoring a murderer instead of a good god?
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
In no way shape or form based on my understanding of the Bible do i find the god of the Bible, offensive. — christian2017
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