I view this general tendency to think that everyone must aim at one single target as a byproduct of self-love which makes us think that what we personally value either is or should be universally appreciated. — TheMadFool
Subsequently, existential philosophical discussions result in the erosion of will power with no associated benefits for gaining insight and emotion becomes the driving motivation for discussions instead of reason. — Rand
please drop these pseudo-academic misonomers with the actual names of philosophers you are responding to — BraydenS
Reason itself is just a type of emotion. — BraydenS
If the primary value of existentialism is authenticity and if it's primarily associated with 19th and 20th century European philosophers, then it fails. Cultural claims of the absurdness of values associated with western culture have increased since the 19th century. Existentialists failed to bridge the gap between their individual angst and the concrete human experience, which is partly attributed to abstract systematic or academic philosophies. Subsequently, existential philosophical discussions result in the erosion of will power with no associated benefits for gaining insight and emotion becomes the driving motivation for discussions instead of reason. It feels good to be perceived as being intelligent and is there any greater pursuit of intelligence than to state humanity's purpose? — Rand
If the primary value of existentialism is authenticity and if it's primarily associated with 19th and 20th century European philosophers, then it fails. Cultural claims of the absurdness of values associated with western culture have increased since the 19th century. Existentialists failed to bridge the gap between their individual angst and the concrete human experience, which is partly attributed to abstract systematic or academic philosophies. Subsequently, existential philosophical discussions result in the erosion of will power with no associated benefits for gaining insight and emotion becomes the driving motivation for discussions instead of reason. It feels good to be perceived as being intelligent and is there any greater pursuit of intelligence than to state humanity's purpose? — Rand
In the sense that you're attempting to achieve it, I can't possibly think of any less academic setting than an anonymous online discussion. — Rand
Or emotion is just a type of reason. — Rand
i agree with you. — christian2017
Wasn't Rand a russian lady who came out of Communist Russia? Or is that someone else — christian2017
this is the only thing I can get from this term, a time period — BraydenS
only a person who has never read Nietzsche could say such things — BraydenS
would like to challenge that statement. Could the general tendency that everyone must aim at one single target be rather because our understanding of morality has been corrupted? Corrupted in the sense that we've learned to treat people the same way, whether they're known or unknown to us? Morally, it's significant whether we know or don't know a person when we factor into our decision making process our relationship with them. We're human and we're fallible beings. And in our modern, anonymous society when we let someone down we feel the same amount of guilt for a stranger that we would feel for a well known acquaintance, which I believe is totally unsustainable. Conceptually, we're turning ourselves into all powerful gods if we think we have the power to cope with that amount of guilt. Could it be that making everyone's aim the same may be a way of failing to minimize our guilt? — Rand
and that failing in the latter evokes guilt in us — TheMadFool
And in our modern, anonymous society when we let someone down we feel the same amount of guilt for a stranger that we would feel for a well known acquaintance, which I believe is totally unsustainable. — Rand
Are you suggesting that that everyone's life-goal should be the same — TheMadFool
Guilt is not a bad thing, provided one doesn't get stuck in the unknown and never progress to the known, which is where I'm arguing the existentialists left us. — Rand
i agree with you.
— christian2017
Yes I think we're in agreement.
Wasn't Rand a russian lady who came out of Communist Russia? Or is that someone else
— christian2017
On this forum I'd like to maintain my anonymity. There's a good and a bad side to everything, including a good side to false god complexes ;) — Rand
which is where I'm arguing the existentialists left us. — Rand
who has a false god complex? lol — christian2017
Colin Wilson's New Existentialism — ZzzoneiroCosm
We're well into the 21st century and we're without a new understanding of morality; two centuries later! — Rand
We don't need a purpose for humanity from anyone. We need a definition of moral principles for everyone, to create our own purpose. — Rand
If the primary value of existentialism is authenticity and if it's primarily associated with 19th and 20th century European philosophers, then it fails. — Rand
Great, thanks for pointing me in a positive direction. — Rand
it's called the will to power — BraydenS
Listen, just read Nietzsche. You'll thank me later. — BraydenS
The slow pace of a moral philosophy emerging in the wake of such considerations is not a flaw but a feature. — Valentinus
He centers on Abraham Maslow's idea of peak and plateau experiences. — ZzzoneiroCosm
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