I would like to develop a previous point: Life cannot be both worth living and acceptable in ending. One of these premeses has to be false, either life is not worth living (and therefore there is no reason not to end it) or death is inherently bad (and therefore should be feared). This presents an interesting dilemma as neither outcome is particularly desirable in my opinion: either fear death or kill yourself. — JacobPhilosophy
Life cannot be both worth living and acceptable in ending. One of these premeses has to be false, either life is not worth living (and therefore there is no reason not to end it) or death is inherently bad (and therefore should be feared). This presents an interesting dilemma as neither outcome is particularly desirable in my opinion: either fear death or kill yourself. — JacobPhilosophy
From my research, most philosophers, most notably Socrates, conclude that death is not inherently bad, but also that life is worth living; These two premises are contradictory in my opinion. If something (life) is worth keeping, then surely the removal of said thing is inherently negative, no? — JacobPhilosophy
I think someone once used the analogy that just because I'm enjoying a meal, doesn't mean I have to be sad when I am finished. However, if I went to an event and enjoyed it, only to have had my memory of the past week wiped, I would argue that there was no purpose in going to said event. If I knew that this memory wipe was approaching, I wouldn't bother doing anything that week, as I wouldn't recall it.
Ps I can't figure out how to quite effectively — JacobPhilosophy
Its mainly the indifference to having lived that is a conundrum to me. If my parents weren't to have conceived me, then there would be no loss there. However, if I die, it is therefore a tragedy. As I will not have memory of having lived, not being born and dying are identical states to me. Therefore, it shouldn't matter when or how I die. — JacobPhilosophy
I think someone once used the analogy that just because I'm enjoying a meal, doesn't mean I have to be sad when I am finished. However, if I went to an event and enjoyed it, only to have had my memory of the past week wiped, I would argue that there was no purpose in going to said event. If I knew that this memory wipe was approaching, I wouldn't bother doing anything that week, as I wouldn't recall it. — JacobPhilosophy
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I agree completely with what you are saying, but feeling as though the only reason to live is "why not?" seems unsatisfactory to me. — JacobPhilosophy
I personally tend to fear negative things :/ — JacobPhilosophy
I've watched a documentary about the man with the seven second memory and, to no offense to the victim, I find that to be the worst torture imaginable. In my opinion, if it were me, that state is similar to death as he claimed to have been "conscious" for the first time in the years since his disease took over, but he claims this every seven seconds in an endless prison of his own nothingness. I personally would rather be dead, and have incredible respect for his acceptance of it. — JacobPhilosophy
Personally, I can’t wait. To be rid of this physical being. To be energy. Are we still trapped by time? — Becky
God! You guys are so wordy! Does that make you better? Or more knowledgeable? You think I’m a pessimist because I can’t wait to die? I dispute that Assumption. Anybody that knows me personally state I am one of the happiest people they have ever met. — Becky
“Suffering to be born” Again disagree with that statement. We are chemical beings Your statement that we are suffering to be born makes it religious. Math and physics are true religion is a fairytale — Becky
Yes, you are correct I did not know about the coding parameters. But do I care,;NO. — Becky
Physics, and chemistry are the base of our existence. If you don’t understand that you understand nothing — Becky
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