Note: you’ve still not given me the name of a single professor? I I’d also still like to know what is specifically different about ‘religious authority’ compared to ‘authority’ in general? — I like sushi
I merely want to know what you think is different between ‘authority’ in general and ‘religious authority,’ in plain and simple terms. — I like sushi
That would have been highly unusual until the Christians took over the Roman state. Then pagans (and other, erring, Christians) were killed relentlessly and with great savagery. The persecutions of the Christians which took place were occasional and minor in comparison to the persecution of pagans by Christians.I’m pretty sure that many pagans were put to death too for refusing to give offerings to some other deity. — I like sushi
Before then, the Romans were generally quite tolerant, provided the cult of the emperor or spirit of Rome was honored and there was peace and order and taxes paid. There were certain pagan cults the Romans felt outlandish and dangerous and were banned (e.g. Druidism), but for the most part you could worship whatever god you wanted, and it wasn't unusual for a person to worship several gods, and be initiates of more than one of the "mystery religions" such as those of Isis, Magna Mater and Mithras. Some even worshipped Jesus along with other figures such as Appollonius of Tyana and traditional pagan gods such as Asclepius. — Ciceronianus the White
The only thing I’ve found is this: https://www.armand-dangour.com/2017/03/shame-and-guilt-in-ancient-greece/ — I like sushi
Before then, the Romans were generally quite tolerant, provided the cult of the emperor or spirit of Rome was honored and there was peace and order and taxes paid. There were certain pagan cults the Romans felt outlandish and dangerous and were banned (e.g. Druidism), but for the most part you could worship whatever god you wanted, and it wasn't unusual for a person to worship several gods, and be initiates of more than one of the "mystery religions" such as those of Isis, Magna Mater and Mithras. Some even worshipped Jesus along with other figures such as Appollonius of Tyana and traditional pagan gods such as Asclepius. — Ciceronianus the White
guess I’d say ‘religious authority’ is more easily prone to being dogmatic than other species of ‘authority’ - that is not to say others cannot, or aren’t, prone to dogma too! — I like sushi
My original point was that I don’t see how other religious creeds wouldn’t have been as willing to die as Christians were for their beliefs. Such beliefs are not usually something people can just throw aside and in many cases death can seem more inviting than turning their back on their whole world view. — I like sushi
ou do realise that no human could walk on that leg? The ‘joint’ certainly wasn’t fixed, unless the meaning of ‘fixed’ was ‘fastened and immobile’. There are records of surgeons in ancient Rome dealing with brain clots quite effectively though - they were capable due to the gladiatorial traditions and centuries of bloody warfare. — I like sushi
I’m pretty sure that many pagans were put to death too for refusing to give offerings to some other deity. Christians are likely singled out today because Christianity took on many other traditions and rituals of the time as its own. — I like sushi
As a comparable ‘authority’ I do see ‘patriotism’ as being almost identical to ’religious piety’ - in some modern cases they are very much entwined. To die for your country to me is only slightly less different than dying for some deity. I think in both situations it is a combination of protecting your sense of identity - place in the world (holding to your ‘axis mundi’) - and holding to certain sets of principles and ethics that seem commonly enough represented in the ‘authority’ figure (institutional or otherwise). — I like sushi
Before then, the Romans were generally quite tolerant, provided the cult of the emperor or spirit of Rome was honored and there was peace and order and taxes paid. There were certain pagan cults the Romans felt outlandish and dangerous and were banned (e.g. Druidism), but for the most part you could worship whatever god you wanted, and it wasn't unusual for a person to worship several gods, and be initiates of more than one of the "mystery religions" such as those of Isis, Magna Mater and Mithras. Some even worshipped Jesus along with other figures such as Appollonius of Tyana and traditional pagan gods such as Asclepius. — Ciceronianus the White
As long as your religion paid tribute to Rome in some sort of way, and paid taxes, they seemed to be ok with whatever you prayed to or whatever ritual you wanted. — schopenhauer1
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