. I see prioritizing social welfare - establishing a baseline of core human values that supersede monetization - as the focus. Freedom can take care of itself as long as we start to take care of each other. — Pantagruel
Effectively this agrees with your substantive point: freedom to choose, without the freedom to determine the very choices set out, is no freedom at all. — StreetlightX
But isn't this the entire nature of freedom as it is really experienced? Sartre characterizes us a theoretically free, but at the same time constrained to choose within already well-defined material contexts, what he calls praxis. — Pantagruel
Yes, I picked that up. — Pantagruel
Need to hit the sack but a quick comment: the exercise of force and coordination of power are the conditions of, and not constraints upon, the exercise of freedom. — StreetlightX
So when people want to change from one form to another, but feel they are stifled, they are not stifled from true freedom, but rather stifled from what way to de facto force people to coordinate. — schopenhauer1
No idea what you mean by 'true freedom'. It's like asking for triangles without angles. — StreetlightX
jamalrob
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Believe it or not many people want to work, not just out of necessity, but because it provides purpose, dignity, and fulfillment.
— NOS4A2
Yes. — jamalrob
Chester
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↪NOS4A2 I used to think that but since if been on furlough I've decided I quite like not working. There's plenty to get on with provided you're not struggling for money...plus the missus and I get on well most of the time. Work is generally an unfulfilling drudgery for many people...especially those without the qualifications or training to get a skill/career as opposed to job. — Chester
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